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Spock's Conscience/Should Spock warn _____ about ______?

Believer Bob

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Now that Spock (Prime) is living in his past and rebuilding the Vulcan society... what will be his thoughts, goals, motivations and ethics regarding "polluting" or "saving" the timeline?

In other threads, folks have mentioned such forthcoming threats as the Space Amoeba, the Planet Destroyer, Kahn, the Borg...

What do you all think will be Spock's position on such things?

Will he remain a silent recluse?

Or will he spill the beans, doing his best to "right" his perceived "wrongs" and take this opportunnity to make his new timeline bigger and better...?

A FASCINATING topic...!!!
 
Re: Spock's Conscience

I think Spock may offer his services, but would hold back from expressly telling them how to solve the problems they face.
 
Re: Spock's Conscience

nx1701g said:
I think Spock may offer his services, but would hold back from expressly telling them how to solve the problems they face.
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Possibly. But why? It certainly seems as if the older, more enlightened Spock has little regard for the timeline (as shown in his reasons for having Kirk keep his existence secret to young Spock)---especially considering that he would consider this current timeline to already be corrupt...
 
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I think he may further his goal to unify Vulcan and Romulus, especially now.
 
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Thanks to his knowledge of transphasic torpedoes and ablative armor, the Federation should be well equipped to take on the Borg.
 
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Believer Bob said:
Now that Spock (Prime) is living in his past and rebuilding the Vulcan society... what will be his thoughts, goals, motivations and ethics regarding "polluting" or "saving" the timeline?

In other threads, folks have mentioned such forthcoming threats as the Space Amoeba, the Planet Destroyer, Kahn, the Borg...

What do you all think will be Spock's position on such things?

Will he remain a silent recluse?

Or will he spill the beans, doing his best to "right" his perceived "wrongs" and take this opportunnity to make his new timeline bigger and better...?

A FASCINATING topic...!!!
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Spock isn't living in his past. His "past" is still in the timeline he came from. He's in a whole new reality now, one in which your examples listed above may not even come to pass. I think Spock will be more content in contributing to this new future as a guide and mentor instead of guarding against threads from the old.
 
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I feel like Spock will contribute as much as he can to this timeline. The original timeline has pretty well been obliterated at this point, so there shouldn't be any concerns about that, also they need to compensate for the loss of the Vulcan Science Academy, which will not doubt take centuries to rebuild.
 
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How much future tech do you think will show up in the sequels? Is the Enterprise going to be immediately obsolete?
 
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lol, yes, expect time ships and phase cloaking in the sequel
 
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Just A Girl said:
The original timeline has pretty well been obliterated at this point, so there shouldn't be any concerns about that...
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Nothing's been obliterated. Spock's original timeline is still there. He just doesn't have the means to return to it.
 
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I would expect Spock to quietly deliver a large file detailing the major still-expected-to-occur threats of the next 129 years to Starfleet Intelligence--or more likely, to Section 31. Certainly, it would be remiss for him not to give warning of Nomad, the Planet Killer or V'Ger, and knowledge of how to resolve each.
 
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And of course, the Whale Probe. Someone needs to rescue humpback whales from the past now that the events that led to the Bounty being available to do it have likely been changed.
 
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hyzmarca said:
And of course, the Whale Probe. Someone needs to rescue humpback whales from the past now that the events that led to the Bounty being available to do it have likely been changed.
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While they're back there they can warn them about Nero too.

I just figured out how to restore the original timeline! :techman:
 
What should Old Spock tell Starfleet?

One thing that occurred to me after the film is what old Spock would tell in terms of what he knows about the future. For instance, the timeline changed from the Kelvin incident forward, but there are things he knows that shouldn't be affected by this. For instance, there's this Planet Killer gonna start eating solar systems, a Space Amoeba that needs to be stopped from replicating
(it sure ain't gonna encounter a starship full of Vulcans as in his timeline)
. He knows about Organia, the Gorn, and that spaceship full of supermen, etc.

I can't image he'd play "prime directive" and not tell them about at least some of these things. "Oh yeah, don't bother with Sarpedion...dont' feed tribbles, and stay away from Talos IV."
 
Re: What should Old Spock tell Starfleet?

It doesn't matter what he tells them. If he tells the truth they will think he is insane.

"There's going to be some whale people coming around in a few years. We're going to have to fly around the sun real fast and travel into the past to steal some whales."
 
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Re: What should Old Spock tell Starfleet?

My assumption is that nobody in the federation really understands the timeline change,so he's just some weird old dude who hangs out with the Vulcan Diaspora and keeps the traditions.

Also I think he won't want to screw up Young Spock's federation career. If Old Spock was ringing up the Feds everytime there was a huge enemy, it would undermine his own future as a respected officer and ambassador.
 
Re: What should Old Spock tell Starfleet?

And he will be very busy, devoting himself to the rebuilding of Vulcan culture. At this point he is just some old Vulcan dude to Starfleet so they would have little reason to listen to him anyway but if he becomes a leader of the diaspora he may find himself with some ethical questions. As a leader he would deal with Federation leaders and might hear about some development that he knew could/would lead to disaster.

btw I kind of love the diaspora idea.
 
Re: What should Old Spock tell Starfleet?

I'm in favor of more changes, so perhaps some warnings to Starfleet are unnecessary. For example: don't make the whales an extinct species. That way, they won't have to go back in time. Problem solved. :D
 
Re: What should Old Spock tell Starfleet?

But will the crew be the same experienced people if Spock divulges the future and how to solve the crisis?
 
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