What is the Worst Trek Film?

[Amaris]

Congrats on making it through! Sanity intact?

Mostly, but now I have a drinking problem.

It's a little reassuring to see someone rank TFF as their number one. It's not mine, but it's still underrated.

Thanks. It has always been one of my favorite movies. In recent years it has only improved for me. Even with that said though, I would be very interested in seeing what they could do with a Shatner update. You know, let William Shatner add in what he originally wanted, fix the VFX and audio, things like that.

J.

 

[Praetor]

Congrats on making it through! Sanity intact?

Mostly, but now I have a drinking problem.

It's a little reassuring to see someone rank TFF as their number one. It's not mine, but it's still underrated.

Thanks. It has always been one of my favorite movies. In recent years it has only improved for me. Even with that said though, I would be very interested in seeing what they could do with a Shatner update. You know, let William Shatner add in what he originally wanted, fix the VFX and audio, things like that.

J.

Yeah, I quite agree. And CGI out the numbers in the turboshaft.

 

[Amaris]

Congrats on making it through! Sanity intact?

Mostly, but now I have a drinking problem.

It's a little reassuring to see someone rank TFF as their number one. It's not mine, but it's still underrated.

Thanks. It has always been one of my favorite movies. In recent years it has only improved for me. Even with that said though, I would be very interested in seeing what they could do with a Shatner update. You know, let William Shatner add in what he originally wanted, fix the VFX and audio, things like that.

J.

Yeah, I quite agree. And CGI out the numbers in the turboshaft.

I don't know...I kind of want them to keep those in for some reason.

J.

 

[Praetor]

But that would be one less thing for people to baselessly complain about!

 

[Amaris]

But that would be one less thing for people to baselessly complain about!

Oh, well it's only because I'm evil that I would wish this.


J.

 

[Praetor]

But that would be one less thing for people to baselessly complain about!

Oh, well it's only because I'm evil that I would wish this.


J.

Yes, but the collective sound of those people slamming their heads into the wall when they realized they don't have this to lean on to argue that it is 'bad' simply because they don't like it would be worth it.

 

[Amaris]

But that would be one less thing for people to baselessly complain about!

Oh, well it's only because I'm evil that I would wish this.


J.

Yes, but the collective sound of those people slamming their heads into the wall when they realized they don't have this to lean on to argue that it is 'bad' simply because they don't like it would be worth it.

Point made, however, I posit that regardless of what they do, people will still gripe and complain about Star Trek V.

J.

 

[TigerOfDarkness]

Oh, well it's only because I'm evil that I would wish this.


J.

Yes, but the collective sound of those people slamming their heads into the wall when they realized they don't have this to lean on to argue that it is 'bad' simply because they don't like it would be worth it.

Point made, however, I posit that regardless of what they do, people will still gripe and complain about Star Trek V.

J.

It does seem a little under-rated, if you ask me.

 

[Amaris]

Yes, but the collective sound of those people slamming their heads into the wall when they realized they don't have this to lean on to argue that it is 'bad' simply because they don't like it would be worth it.

Point made, however, I posit that regardless of what they do, people will still gripe and complain about Star Trek V.

J.

It does seem a little under-rated, if you ask me.

I believe so. I don't think it gets a fair shake sometimes, neither do people really consider the surrounding circumstances. One of the reasons Nemesis disappoints me so is because it had a really good budget and lots of PR (relatively at the time anyway), and yet we still got this. Great visuals, no heart. With TFF, the budget kept getting slashed, there was a writer's strike, and Bran Ferren dropped the ball on the VFX. I think what we got was poor visuals, all heart. But heart isn't enough to move fans if the visuals and audio let them down, and if the story falls apart in places. I love the movie though, as Gillian Taylor would say, "I'm a sucker for hard luck cases."

J.

 

[Praetor]

Well said, J.

 

[Amaris]

Well said, J.

Thank you. We all have our sacred cows.
Oh, and for the record, I loved Laurence Luckinbill's Sybok.

J.

 

[FlyingLemons]

Having got the Star Trek TOS Motion Picture Collection on Blu-ray recently, having rewatched TWOK recently I decided to go and do a comparison of Nemesis. I then came to the realization that it's just a remake of TWOK, but done incredibly badly. Right down to the villain being marooned on a planet to the "logical" crew member deciding to sacrifice themselves, and the "to absent friends" toast (although that was STIII), it's a really bad copy of the film.

I remember an interview where one of the producers claimed it was "better than The Wrath of Khan", thus setting themselves up to fail epically in an attempt to recapture the feel of it.

 

[Claudia]

TMP

TFF, GEN and NEM all have at least some scenes that make them watchable for me - TMP's just booooooooooring (and that's worse than being annoying).

 

[Too Much Fun]

Nice to see a reaction to the first Star Trek movie a little more inline with mine for the first time in awhile after weeks of reading these bewildering posts praising it as one of the best in the series.

 

[Stardate]

well i think First Contact is the worst Trek film and The Motion Picture is the best LOL.

 

[Praetor]

"Everyone's entitled to their opinion, laddie. Now sit down, and drink your drink."

 

[cooleddie74]

TFF has heart going for it, even if the f/x are awful and Shatner's direction is spotty at best.

 

[tomalak301]

I liked Final Frontier, so Nemesis gets my vote.

 

[I am not Spock]

The characters in TFF at least felt like the Kirk, Spock, and McCoy we know. Except for the weird Scotty/Uhura stuff.

Nemesis was a character assassination of the entire TNG cast. I blame Baird. If Frakes had directed it, it might have been an OK movie.

 

[Leandar]

The characters in TFF at least felt like the Kirk, Spock, and McCoy we know. Except for the weird Scotty/Uhura stuff.

I dunno, even back then I always wondered why that never happened. Here's Uhura, the only woman running around with six men, and she never ended up with one of them? I mean, I can understand nothing happening with Kirk, he's her captain, Spock was kind of a mentor and McCoy was probably too old. But I could have seen her easily getting with Scotty or Chekov or Sulu. I do have to agree that it did seem odd to just tack it onto Star Trek V and there never be anything about it anywhere ever again. But I always thought it could be plausible that she get with one of them at least sometime along the line.

Nemesis was a character assassination of the entire TNG cast. I blame Baird. If Frakes had directed it, it might have been an OK movie.

Or LeVar Burton. Didn't he express interest in directing the movie? Nevertheless, I still prefer Nemesis over Insurrection, which gets my vote as worst Trek film of all.