If Star Trek Has A Disappointing Box Office...?
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What are you referring to?
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number6
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I wouldn't assume that at all. The response so far has been very positive. Everyone I know (even non hardcore fans) want to go see this. Advance tickets for opening weekend around my neck of the woods have selling very well. IMAX shows are already selling out.
No, because everyone is on pins and needles anticipating this movie and hoping it does spectacularly well.
Your topic would make sense to discuss should the box office bomb come to pass.
This thing needs to make at least $300 million to break even, so even a $100 million gross qualifies as a bomb.
Well I don't know about that. Factor in overseas sales, DVDs, tv rights...most movies eventually make money.
Though as a rule, it seems that studios at least want movies to recoup their production costs through U.S. box office.
And then again the expectations game rises.
With as someone said "universally good reviews" how can we be certain that moviegoers aren't setting themselves up for disappointment and how might this effect long term ticket sales?
How do you figure? That seems a little excessive for a movie that's budgeted at $150 Million.
Sorry, I'd take your word for it but you just made some stuff up half an hour ago.
I think he is figuring that because though the studio will spend all of the 150 million to make the movie...the studios only get a fraction of the total box office in return. Sometimes as low as one third. Individual theatres and others get the rest.
There is a disparity between what theaters and studios make, but it swings strongly in the opposite direction. For the first few weeks of release the studios get the overwhelming majority of box office receipts. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 80-90% IIRC. This is why a Coke costs $9.
Lawl. No I am saying don't expect it to be at 100% in 3 days.
Not everyone, and there is a distinction between disappointing and a bomb.
If the numbers are lower than the hype and reviews would reasonably indicate, then there will be questions over whether the Star Trek name is a millstone around the figurative neck of the franchise in that regard.
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So you're expecting it to drop down to 63 like Watchmen?
Lawl. No I am saying don't expect it to be at 100% in 3 days.
I like your optimism... but I don't think it can go up any higher.
number6
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QFT. Movie Theatres make their money from concessions. The profit margin on Popcorn alone is what keeps first run theatres in business.
It's a sliding scale, with the theatres getting more and more of the share the longer the film is in the theatre (one of the reasons movies don't stay in theatres as long as they used to, and why so much emphasis is put on that opening weekend).
Plus, there's all the promotional costs, the cost of just printing and shipping the copies of the film to the theatres, and how many different ways the box office take is split up. The general rule is that, after all these other costs are figured in, that any given movie has to gross at least twice its production cost in order to turn a profit, with the current market pushing that figure to around three times to production budget.
One big change in recent years is how DVD sales and merchandizing sales are now figured into the total take, which definitely helps with the studio's bottom line, but the emphasis is still on the box office (since that number tends to have a big influence on how attractive the DVD and other merchandise will be).
Plus, there's all the promotional costs, the cost of just printing and shipping the copies of the film to the theatres, and how many different ways the box office take is split up. The general rule is that, after all these other costs are figured in, that any given movie has to gross at least twice its production cost in order to turn a profit, with the current market pushing that figure to around three times to production budget.
One big change in recent years is how DVD sales and merchandizing sales are now figured into the total take, which definitely helps with the studio's bottom line, but the emphasis is still on the box office (since that number tends to have a big influence on how attractive the DVD and other merchandise will be).
I believe it's the case that, nowadays, the studios make *more* money on DVDs than on the theatrical run, in large part because, as you say, for the theatrical run they only get a certain fraction of the ticket sale $, they have to spend a fortune on advertising, they have to spend $ on distributing the movie to theaters, etc. Whereas, when it comes to manufacturing DVDs, there aren't so many such extra costs. So it's not like the DVDs are some extra bonus tacked onto the box office receipts. The DVDs are their big cash cow.
You're right that the box office number will probably tend to correlate with the DVD sales, but it's also the case that we tend to fixate on the box office number because (I think) the DVD sales figures aren't public. I don't think the studios disclose the exact figures for DVD sales, nor do they disclose how much $ they get from selling the TV rights or merchandising and the like.
In short, the profitability of the movie is based on a bunch of numbers that we don't have access to, yet we still make all these wild extrapolations just from the box office numbers, because that's all we have available to us. But really, for anyone without access to Paramount's accounting sheets, it's just blind guessing.
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Star Trek will die forever if this movie flops. TPTB will probably do anything , but blame themselves Paramount will rape Indiana Jones agian and make 9 Iron Man's and in 30-50 years from now one of our grandchildren who we forced to watch Star Trek and Star Wars and listen to The Beatles and Nirvana as a kid will be as much in love with these things as adults as we are and will grow up to be writters,directors and poducers and will convince the studio to do a tv. series or movie which will return it to it's roots and be the perfect movie or tv.series we alway's hoped for, but updated and some will complain and some will like it and some won't know what to thing and they will be talking on thier hologram thingie magiggers, which we won't figure out how to use cause we are old then finally Star Trek will be braught back to life and create another 40 years of cannon and bad decission making and bad writting will lead to another reboot , then over time the cannon will turn into true mythology and people will name thier kids Kirk and Spock and all the names will become common until we get to a couple of hundred years from now when we make contact with real aliens that sort of do look and act like Vulcans and then things will get so twisted that life imitates art and there really is a federation and an Enterprise and Kirk and Spock will really exist and Spock will travel back in time in order to see what his ancesters were like and oh my god!... my DVD's just disapear like Marty Mcfly's family picture in back to the future, did your's?Sorry just got caried away
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