I just started Full Circle yesterday (I'm on Chapter 2 or 3) and I was just wondering where the mirror that Chakotay wanted to give Janeway in the prolouge came from?
Yes, it was "Isabo's Shirt."
I just finished the book this morning. I really enjoyed.
Yeah!
Interesting turn of events with Seven as well. Glad to see she did not just become human and all is well with the world.
Where the fun have been in that?
I liked the set up of the next book and am truly looking forward to it. That is something I have not said about a VOY-R book before.
Tee-hee-hee. (Mine is not quite as evil a laugh as Keith's.)
Just finished this one, enjoyed it a lot...Well done, enjoyable story, and it read very quickly for such a long book with so much packed into it!
Very cool.
Is she really that much more protective of her crew than Picard or Kirk?
I'm with Bill on this one. I think the specific circumstances of Voyager's crew plus Janeway's personality definitely equal more protective in Janeway's case. Again, we're talking apples, oranges and plums. Saying Janeway is more protective does not minimize the feelings Kirk or Picard had for their crews. These were all different people who bring different experiences, emotional strenths and weaknesses, etc. to the table. It does all of them a disservice to try and lump them together and make generalizations. I'm not sure why a comparison to Kirk or Picard is necessary here. She is who she is, completely apart from them.
You can always separate Janeway and Chakotay from the rest of the crew just like Riker and Troi have left Picard's crew and Worf went to DS9.
You
can always do anything you like. The only question is, what does that choice serve? In the context of the bigger story for
Voyager, separating Janeway and Chakotay from the rest of the crew either means that every time we're telling a story about what's happening on the ship and what's happening wherever they are...which seems lame and forced. Or, we stop telling stories about the rest of the crew and just focus on Janeway and Chakotay....which seems ridiculously limited. Or we stop telling stories about Janeway and Chakotay and just assume they lived happily ever after...which also seems ridiculously limited. And, as has been pointed out by others, why repeat what we've already done? You use these possibilities as evidence that different choices could have been made. No one is ever going to argue that. That's always the case. But, for me, when I see something like these suggestions that has been done, especially incredibly recently, that makes it significantly less likely that such a story is going to fire my imagination.
Killing the captain so the crew can "live" seems a bit extreme, imo.
It does. Which is why it didn't enter anyone's mind who was actually part of making the decision. You keep searching for a single definitive answer. Why did Janeway have to die? And you keep coming up with progressively more absurd answers to your own question.
The answer is simple. She died because the story of her death was something the editors and writers were interested in exploring. Not any capain's death. Not a woman captain's death. Admiral Kathryn Janeway's death. Her. Specifically. This character. She is unique in all of Trek for so many reasons beyond her gender. The impact of her death at this time on the people she served with is likewise unique. I'm not saying good or bad. You can't objectively get there from here. You will choose to like or dislike the choice. But please spare us the pointless speculations on the real reason this choice was made. It's just not that complicated or revealing.
I just finished the book this morning. What a great ending but also a great start to the return of exploring the Delta Quadrant.
Yeah!
I can't remember right off which book it was that featured Kahless as being a hologram on Qo'noS.
That was Keith's brilliant
A Time for War, A Time for Peace
I do have a question regarding Tom through. I think this was answered somewhere in the thread but is Tom a full commander now instead of a lieutenant commander? I'm only asking cause near the end of the book noone really said lieutenant commander to him but more as in commander. I hope I make sense there.
Nope. He's Lt. Commander throughout but shortened to Commander sometimes when directly addressed.
That reminds me of a small detail that stuck out. On the show, by season 7, they had regular, real-time communication with the Alpha Quadrant. However, when they are talking about sending the news to Neelix about Janeway's death, there is the implication that doesn't exist any more. Did I miss something there?
My understanding of that technology was that it wasn't quite real time, though it was more regular than any other point in the show. And it was done through project Pathfinder, which was reallocated after Voyager returned. They can still get messages back and forth, but it takes even longer now than it did when Pathfinder was pointed right at them.
Man, did you just give away the plot to
Unworthy?
Nope.
