Early NX-01 designs at John Eaves' blog.

[miraclefan]

I really liked the Daedalus designed by some guy called Aethernaut. Hang on, let me check if I saved any of the images I remember seeing...

EDIT: Yep, here it is.

Now that does look like a nice ship I'm impressed, but still not ''hero'' ship material!

I wasn't aware of the existence of the Akira before I saw the NX-01, so when I saw it, I didn't see a 24th century ship. The details that Drexler changed and added were very instrumental in the look of the ship and, in my mind, made it look like it was more primative than the Constitution. And I think In A Mirror Darkly portrays this well.

When the Defiant streaks over the 22nd century ships, it looks like some futuristic beauty next to them, with its seemless, white surface and confident lines. Everyone seems to think an older ship than the original series ships should be flat and white to show they are primative, but I think the sleekness and gleaming surfaces of the Constitution make the ship look futuristic. Maybe it's just a symptom of growing up in the iPod generation, but clean surfaces suggest advancement to me. Greebles suggest nitty-gritty mechanics, too primative to allow the incorporation of artistic forms.

Thank you! I have had the same thoughts for a long time about sleek being ''futuristic''. Plus I to didn't even now the AKIRA existed before I saw this.

 

[miraclefan]

Because spheres are ugly.

So, essentially you agree with me, they don't have to have a saucer. It's just you who likes them more.

So it seems, and so it is. But, I think TPTB might have agreed with the idea that the sphere and cylinder was an ugly design. I happen to like it.

I really liked the Daedalus designed by some guy called Aethernaut. Hang on, let me check if I saved any of the images I remember seeing...

EDIT: Yep, here it is.

There are less 'revised' versions that have been created that I think make it better without changing it so much. Such as this (by our own lennier1):

^Okay now that comes very close to looking like a ''HERO'' ship!

 

[Praetor]

I might as well post this since it's next to that in my Photobucket:


It doesn't look that bad when lit nicely, IMO.

 

[Michael]

I might as well post this since it's next to that in my Photobucket:


It doesn't look that bad when lit nicely, IMO.

"Doesn't look that bad"? That's just gorgeous!

Thanks everyone for posting the Daedalus (or Daedalus-like) pics.

 

[Karnbeln]

I really liked the Daedalus designed by some guy called Aethernaut. Hang on, let me check if I saved any of the images I remember seeing...

EDIT: Yep, here it is.

I remember that this guy also created an "Icarus" class which was a contemporary or predecessor ship to the Daedalus. I don't remember much about his ship design, but I remember being impressed by all the work he put into other details, like the uniforms, bridge, and shuttles, which he designed to bridge the gap between Enterprise and "The Cage".

 

[Brainiac]

I always liked the Daedalus-class, but ever since Enterprise was shown on TV, it irked me that in that series' design style there was apparently no place for this beauty...

 

[miraclefan]

I really liked the Daedalus designed by some guy called Aethernaut. Hang on, let me check if I saved any of the images I remember seeing...

EDIT: Yep, here it is.

I remember that this guy also created an "Icarus" class which was a contemporary or predecessor ship to the Daedalus. I don't remember much about his ship design, but I remember being impressed by all the work he put into other details, like the uniforms, bridge, and shuttles, which he designed to bridge the gap between Enterprise and "The Cage".

I know what your talking about! http://www.treknology.org/history1.htm <there's the link! the other one I like is the ''ADAMANT:Class""

 

[Praetor]

I might as well post this since it's next to that in my Photobucket:


It doesn't look that bad when lit nicely, IMO.

"Doesn't look that bad"? That's just gorgeous!

Thanks everyone for posting the Daedalus (or Daedalus-like) pics.

Well, I didn't want to overstate my case. "Let the pictures do the talking."

And, I do have more, by the way...

I always liked the Daedalus-class, but ever since Enterprise was shown on TV, it irked me that in that series' design style there was apparently no place for this beauty...

Well, if you think about it - the study model is a Federation starship. This alone suggests that the configuration it depicts might be post-ENT. The class could have still existed pre-ENT or during ENT somewhere behind the scenes in a more primitive-looking form more in keeping with the ENT style and been giving a 'Great White Fleet' visual overhaul when it was incorporated into the Federation.

 

[Michael]

And, I do have more, by the way...

What, do you want me to fall on my knees and beg for more pics? Well, I can do that ...

 

[Brainiac]

I always liked the Daedalus-class, but ever since Enterprise was shown on TV, it irked me that in that series' design style there was apparently no place for this beauty...

Well, if you think about it - the study model is a Federation starship. This alone suggests that the configuration it depicts might be post-ENT. The class could have still existed pre-ENT or during ENT somewhere behind the scenes in a more primitive-looking form more in keeping with the ENT style and been giving a 'Great White Fleet' visual overhaul when it was incorporated into the Federation.

I don't want to be too forthright, but the Daedalus-class, as it is, already looks more primitive than the NX-01... you know, the entire structure (ball-shaped primary hull, bottle-shaped secondary hull, tube-shaped engines, all connected with straight struts). Owing to its 24th century Akira-class inspiration, the NX-01 looks more futuristic.
However, I remember seeing some CGIs a while ago of a Daedalus-class starship fusioned with all the Enterprise-era design features. That one really could take its place alongside the NX-01!

 

[miraclefan]

^I know what your talking about! Anybody have a picture!?

 

[Brainiac]

^I know what your talking about! Anybody have a picture!?

Unfortunately not. I've been searching the internet for more than an hour now, but I can't find them anymore...

 

[Praetor]

And, I do have more, by the way...

What, do you want me to fall on my knees and beg for more pics? Well, I can do that ...

Well, when you put it that way.

I don't want to be too forthright, but the Daedalus-class, as it is, already looks more primitive than the NX-01... you know, the entire structure (ball-shaped primary hull, bottle-shaped secondary hull, tube-shaped engines, all connected with straight struts). Owing to its 24th century Akira-class inspiration, the NX-01 looks more futuristic.
However, I remember seeing some CGIs a while ago of a Daedalus-class starship fusioned with all the Enterprise-era design features. That one really could take its place alongside the NX-01!

Oh, I do indeed see your point and to some point agree - however from a Trek tech standpoint, I think the Daedalus represents an advance - smaller, presumably less complicated, separated primary hull/secondary hull for safety from the engineering tech. I've come to see it as the Oberth of it's era - and perhaps simple and easily-produced like the WWII Liberty ships - at least more easily built than the NX class.

 

[miraclefan]

^Ya know ''Praetor'' I was about to say the ''DAEDALUS'' was probably the OBERTH of it's time!

 

[Skywalker]

I don't want to be too forthright, but the Daedalus-class, as it is, already looks more primitive than the NX-01... you know, the entire structure (ball-shaped primary hull, bottle-shaped secondary hull, tube-shaped engines, all connected with straight struts). Owing to its 24th century Akira-class inspiration, the NX-01 looks more futuristic.
However, I remember seeing some CGIs a while ago of a Daedalus-class starship fusioned with all the Enterprise-era design features. That one really could take its place alongside the NX-01!

Oh, I do indeed see your point and to some point agree - however from a Trek tech standpoint, I think the Daedalus represents an advance - smaller, presumably less complicated, separated primary hull/secondary hull for safety from the engineering tech. I've come to see it as the Oberth of it's era - and perhaps simple and easily-produced like the WWII Liberty ships - at least more easily built than the NX class.

That's how I like to see it. Perhaps the new Warp 7 engine was just so large that they realized the Daedalus' engineering section would have to take up almost an entire hull all to itself, with another hull to be used for the bridge, sickbay, all of the living space, etc.

 

[Brainiac]

I think the Daedalus represents an advance - smaller, presumably less complicated, separated primary hull/secondary hull for safety from the engineering tech. I've come to see it as the Oberth of it's era - and perhaps simple and easily-produced like the WWII Liberty ships - at least more easily built than the NX class.

That might work...

 

[msbae]

That was rather blunt.

I do like to make a pithy post.

Why does it have to?

Because spheres are ugly.

So, essentially you agree with me, they don't have to have a saucer. It's just you who likes them more.

No, spheres are ugly for Earth/Federation starship design. They also look too damn primitive, even for the mid-22nd Century. I didn't like the Pastuer in AGT, either. I'm happy the Klingons destroyed that piece of garbage.

As for the Daedalus 'being the Oberth of its era', I can believe that one. It does look like a science ship would; slow, ugly and (as far as I know) not very well armed.

 

[Michael]

Well, when you put it that way.

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Thank you for the images, Praetor! Now I can drool all over them.

I wish they were a little larger, though. But beggars can't be choosers, eh?

Because spheres are ugly.

So, essentially you agree with me, they don't have to have a saucer. It's just you who likes them more.

No, spheres are ugly for Earth/Federation starship design.

It's funny that you seem to think italicizing one word makes it somehow more than just your personal opinion.

 

[Shatmandu]

If the actual NX had a color scheme closer to the TOS Enterprise, I would have liked it much better.

As it stands, meh.

Joe, colored

 

[Praetor]

Because spheres are ugly.

So, essentially you agree with me, they don't have to have a saucer. It's just you who likes them more.

No, spheres are ugly for Earth/Federation starship design. They also look too damn primitive, even for the mid-22nd Century. I didn't like the Pastuer in AGT, either. I'm happy the Klingons destroyed that piece of garbage.

I'm not trying to drag this out, but I'm rather curious why you find the sphere idea so primitive? (BTW, I'd argue that the Pasteur had a sphere rather than a saucer because it was a medical ship and needed more space.)

Thank you for the images, Praetor! Now I can drool all over them.

I wish they were a little larger, though. But beggars can't be choosers, eh?

I'll see what I can do.

If the actual NX had a color scheme closer to the TOS Enterprise, I would have liked it much better.

As it stands, meh.

Joe, colored

You know, that was actually one of the aesthetic things about it that bugged me a little. It looked... I don't know, unpainted? I wouldn't want it to be exactly the same color... but maybe in the same range?