My sentiments exactly...
I, too, enjoyed/enjoy ENT despite all its shortcomings (perhaps even - if only in my head - for what it could have been).
Early NX-01 designs at John Eaves' blog.
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My sentiments exactly...
I, too, enjoyed/enjoy ENT despite all its shortcomings (perhaps even - if only in my head - for what it could have been).
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Sorry, ''HR''
I know I ''SHULD'' know what hotlinking is, but I don't. Could somebody Please explain what ''hotlink'' is? I really don't want to cause anymore trouble then I already have!
Sorry, ''HR''
I know I ''SHULD'' know what hotlinking is, but I don't. Could somebody Please explain what ''hotlink'' is? I really don't want to cause anymore trouble then I already have!
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^^Sorry I couldn't even save the links in your post, miraclefan, but the site didn't seem to want to let me. I guess we all learned something, LOL.
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^ And on tinypic.com you don't even need to register an account. 
1.) I like the design we got. The only change I'd make is the color scheme for the exterior hull. Why change it from Grey to Bronze? Did that serve some kind of purpose?
2.) The first design looks a lot like the Captain's Yacht from Insurrection.
3.) The second design shouldn't have a forward PhoTorp launcher in the ship's connecting dorsal. That brings up too many questions about why the original Constitution class design had it in the saucer instead.
2.) The first design looks a lot like the Captain's Yacht from Insurrection.
3.) The second design shouldn't have a forward PhoTorp launcher in the ship's connecting dorsal. That brings up too many questions about why the original Constitution class design had it in the saucer instead.
I was just going to say that myself!
I like the first design - just not as a 22nd century Enterprise - it looks way too 24th century to me!
Whoever it was that said in this thread that Eaves ships all look the same, requardless of ear, I agree! This is *obviously* a 24th century design asthetic!
(Hell, it actually looks like an early 25th century "Adventine" era ship....)
If you took that first ship, and scaled it down a bit, it would make a *fine* sort of...fast corvet(?) inbetween the size of a Runabout and a Raven-style vessel (I would scale it down to make the single-hull design more Trek-consistant since smaller Trek vessels don't tend to have the twin-hull layouts of larger Federation vessels...)
That second ship looks too *advanced*, IMHO, for a 22nd century show...
Really, I think that if you go by the 60's series TOS Enterprise design asthetic - the only ship I have even seen that really looks like a believable precurser to that particular design is the Daedalus class...it's just that ship looks *too* primitive and clunky to be the "hero" ship on a modern series...
But but but ...
I agree!
I love the ''hero'' ship that we got! Besides the NX-O1's design is ''both'' beautiful & stremlined!
I don't think a ''DAEDALUS'' design would have cut it.
I think with 'design chronology' the devil is in the details. Eaves tends to favor blade type nacelles, which we saw a lot of when he worked on DS9 and therefore they seem very 24th century. I don't think the shape of the number one ship is too advanced - just the shapes of the nacelles and details. 'Balance of Terror' seemed to imply submarines in space - and this certainly resembles one.
Steady.
I agree!
I have to agree. I would have loved to have seen a Daedalus as a damsel in distress/support role on 'Enterprise' but I think the one inescapable conclusion of Trek design is that hero ships must have certain qualities. Among them is looking cool.
I would have loved to have seen a Daedalus as a damsel in distress/support role on 'Enterprise' but I think the one inescapable conclusion of Trek design is that hero ships must have certain qualities. Among them is looking cool.
Not to mention that the hero ship has to have a saucer instead of a sphere for the primary hull.
Why does it have to?I would have loved to have seen a Daedalus as a damsel in distress/support role on 'Enterprise' but I think the one inescapable conclusion of Trek design is that hero ships must have certain qualities. Among them is looking cool.
Not to mention that the hero ship has to have a saucer instead of a sphere for the primary hull.
Why does it have to?
Because spheres are ugly.
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That was rather blunt.Why does it have to?
Because spheres are ugly.
So, essentially you agree with me, they don't have to have a saucer. It's just you who likes them more.Why does it have to?
Because spheres are ugly.
I wasn't aware of the existence of the Akira before I saw the NX-01, so when I saw it, I didn't see a 24th century ship. The details that Drexler changed and added were very instrumental in the look of the ship and, in my mind, made it look like it was more primative than the Constitution. And I think In A Mirror Darkly portrays this well.
When the Defiant streaks over the 22nd century ships, it looks like some futuristic beauty next to them, with its seemless, white surface and confident lines. Everyone seems to think an older ship than the original series ships should be flat and white to show they are primative, but I think the sleekness and gleaming surfaces of the Constitution make the ship look futuristic. Maybe it's just a symptom of growing up in the iPod generation, but clean surfaces suggest advancement to me. Greebles suggest nitty-gritty mechanics, too primative to allow the incorporation of artistic forms.
When the Defiant streaks over the 22nd century ships, it looks like some futuristic beauty next to them, with its seemless, white surface and confident lines. Everyone seems to think an older ship than the original series ships should be flat and white to show they are primative, but I think the sleekness and gleaming surfaces of the Constitution make the ship look futuristic. Maybe it's just a symptom of growing up in the iPod generation, but clean surfaces suggest advancement to me. Greebles suggest nitty-gritty mechanics, too primative to allow the incorporation of artistic forms.
So, essentially you agree with me, they don't have to have a saucer. It's just you who likes them more.Why does it have to?
Because spheres are ugly.
So it seems, and so it is. But, I think TPTB might have agreed with the idea that the sphere and cylinder was an ugly design. I happen to like it.
I really liked the Daedalus designed by some guy called Aethernaut. Hang on, let me check if I saved any of the images I remember seeing...
EDIT: Yep, here it is.
There are less 'revised' versions that have been created that I think make it better without changing it so much. Such as this (by our own lennier1):
Ignoring the Akira, I generally agree with your assessment.
I find it so incredibly, lamentably lazy that TPTB were comfortable with using the Akira design as it was, without the heavy renovation that Doug (thank God) performed on it.
