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Opposing Magnets Query

Anyway i've just thought up another experiment.

You are in desperate need of education. To be this ignorant of the simplest basic principles, yet to proceed to theorize as though you know the first thing about the subject, borders on a kind of mental illness, and is most certainly a complete waste of time.
 
Tachyon, I would prefer to see some little concept drawings when you invent things. Like you did with that antarctic water system, and your superior space ship design.

Because I like your drawings. :)
 
Tachyon, I would prefer to see some little concept drawings when you invent things. Like you did with that antarctic water system, and your superior space ship design.

Because I like your drawings. :)

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Anyone with a little knowledge of magnetic fields already knows this won't work. It's not even worth considering.

I'm no expert in patents, but isn't it impossible to patent a device that can be made entirely from standard parts?
 
The question is why should I read something somewhere and then just believe it? why should I assume someone has tried this? why should I accept someone else's results, theories or conclusions? Why should I accept someone telling me it won't work when they themselves have never tried it?

I will be the judge of whether it will work or not because I will be the one doing the experiment.
 
The question is why should I read something somewhere and then just believe it? why should I assume someone has tried this? why should I accept someone else's results, theories or conclusions? Why should I accept someone telling me it won't work when they themselves have never tried it?

I will be the judge of whether it will work or not because I will be the one doing the experiment.

The reason it won't work is due to fundamental principles you haven't learned. It isn't whether it has been tried; it is simply that it cannot work, no matter how many times it is tried. To understand that, and to understand why it is true, is the challenge.
 
The reason it won't work is due to fundamental principles you haven't learned.

Who discovered these fundamental principles? should I just roll over and accept these 'fundamental principals' are correct and accurate because someone else said so? no.
Someone could be wrong, someone could have made mistakes, someone could have missed something, nothing is 100% correct, nothing is 100% certain.
 
The reason it won't work is due to fundamental principles you haven't learned.

Who discovered these fundamental principles? should I just roll over and accept these 'fundamental principals' are correct and accurate because someone else said so? no.
Someone could be wrong, someone could have made mistakes, someone could have missed something, nothing is 100% correct.

To expand on a field of knowledge it is first necessary to be at least passingly familiar with the fundamentals of what is understood of that field.

Otherwise, you may as well stand outside and flap your arms expecting to fly.
 
By way of clarification, 'dia-magnetic' or 'scalar' longitudinal wave technologies do not provide 'something for nothing', rather, these devices are just a few of the many ways to tap into or, or 'cohere', the '0'-point energy of the vacuum fluctuations of the quantum potential field, wherein there is vast amounts of energy locked up! Sadly, if you're successful, you won't make any money out of this, as 'TPTB' will shut you down in short order, if you tried to take it very far. This is what Westinghouse and Edison did to Nikola Tesla back at the turn of the 20th century, when he tried to use these principles to give the the world 'free electricity' (beamed freely through the air instead of 'metered' through wires). My advice is, read up on everything you can get youre hands on, and not just what's in the 'approved' textbooks, and don't limit yourself to anyone elses preconcieved (or pre-programed) notions of what physics can or cannot do!
 
The question is why should I read something somewhere and then just believe it? why should I assume someone has tried this? why should I accept someone else's results, theories or conclusions? Why should I accept someone telling me it won't work when they themselves have never tried it?

If you actually had an understanding of the established physics involved then you disagreeing with it might actually hold some weight. But you don't, you're dismissing it out of hand without even bothering to try and understand the established consensus. You ask who discovered all those things that you are rejecting? People who understood the concept of scientifc rigor, that's who. You're not just rejecting established theories... you're rejecting science. And that's why you're getting this sort of reaction here in this thread.

Speaking of, diamagnetism is simply the property of some materials to generate an opposing magnetic field when they are in the presence of an externally applied one. The field is weak so it isn't usually observable in our normal circumstances but if you've ever seen that clip of a magnet levitating a frog that is what's doing it... the diamagnetic response of the frog to an externally applied magnetic field. Because the response is so weak proportionally to the external field I believe they had to use something like ~15T. And it isn't caused by zero-point energy but the magnetic interaction of paired electrons.
 
If you actually had an understanding of the established physics involved then you disagreeing with it might actually hold some weight.

But I do understand, I understand perfectly and yet I believe it may be wrong and something may have been overlooked or not yet discovered. :)
 
If you actually had an understanding of the established physics involved then you disagreeing with it might actually hold some weight.

But I do understand, I understand perfectly and yet I believe it may be wrong and something may have been overlooked or not yet discovered. :)

You believe the whole of electromagnetism, the conservation of energy and momentum, and the core of thermodynamics may be wrong? May I ask what grounds led you to this... entertaining conclusion?
 
Tachyon, whatever you believe may be possible, you're not going to convince people here with what you're presenting. You know that. You're just going to continually be facing opposition from all the hard nosed scientists.

I enjoy hearing about your ideas. I really do. They're often fun things, as well as being pleasant expressions of your personality. :) But I want you to realise, that a thing isn't an invention if the thing doesn't work as you intend it to.

I also admire your enthusiasm and desire to make the world a better place, but you're not exploring your ideas with any depth, you jump from one to another. So they are remaining as ideas -- fantasy devices which you imagine working and fixing the world's problems -- things that might be possible, but they're never explored or verified to see if they are tangible or not.

So by all means keep having your ideas, but try to explore them with greater depth. :) That way, you might find yourself having better ideas in the future.
 
And for our next TrekBBS science thread we will discuss turning lead into gold using household chemicals and a really big microwave.
 
Speaking of, diamagnetism is simply the property of some materials to generate an opposing magnetic field when they are in the presence of an externally applied one. ...And it isn't caused by zero-point energy but the magnetic interaction of paired electrons.

The first part of this is essentially correct, but more generally, the term 'diamagnetism' can be applied to opposing magnetic fields in general, any time 'like' magnetic poles 'oppose' each other. The last part there isn't strictly true, while electron pairing (called cooper pairs) is not caused by zero-point energy, it does come into play in this, and many other nuclear and sub-nuclear interactions, energy is routinely either absorbed by, or lost to, the vacuum fluctuations in such interactions. And what's not generally revealed in the open literature on superconductors is that cooper pairs are in fact electron-positron pairs, which can exist together in the atomic matrix the same way Quarks and anti-quarks form part of the fundemental building blocks of all matter. This brings us back to scalar electromagnetics and phase conjugation of wave/particle pairs, as in Dirac's equations for pair production. Look it up, if you don't believe me, but good luck finding it in your sources on 'established physics'.
 
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You believe the whole of electromagnetism, the conservation of energy and momentum, and the core of thermodynamics may be wrong? May I ask what grounds led you to this... entertaining conclusion?

Actually, what is thought of today as Maxwell's theory of electro-magnetism does not reflect his original equations! When he formulated his theory, he did so using "quaternion mathmatics" which hardly anyone at the time (or now) could understand, but it was in fact, a unified field theory that linked all the fundemental forces of the universe, the so-called "Holy Grail" of physics, still being searched for in vain. After Maxwell's death, Oliver Heviside, in order to simplify the complex (literally) equations after observing that "they are too mystical and should be murdered from the theory" (so much for cool, calm, dispationate science) he proceded to do just that, did a hatchet job, and removed the complex quaternion equations from the theory. So what we learn in schools and universities today as "Maxwell's Theory" isn't that at all, just its murdered corpse! So right off the bat, modern physics got off on the wrong foot, and has been going down the wrong path ever since!
 
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And I like quaternions too :(

Didn't some of the gauge theories develop isomorphisms with quaternions? I remember when I first learned about them (quaternions) seeing some asides on 'spinors' and quantum spin.

So do these (macroscopic) field theories tie into the (compartmentalized) gauge theories through algebraic structures like the quaternions?
 
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