I'm curious...?

[Johnny]

I know this post is about Enterprise but Mod's please humour me cus I'm trying to get a general concensus from everyone. I'd do a poll too, but I don't know how to!

I was chatting to my friend a not so long ago, and he's a VHS trekkie...or was back in the day, and he mentioned that he hated ENT. I asked him whether he'd watched it all the way through, and he said 'no'. I was kinda stumped! I thought series 3 & 4 were better, and was curious how he could base his opinion on something he hasn't seen all the way through?!
I was curious how many people here have actually watched ALL of ENT then formed their opinion, even if ya hate it, or just went mad at the opening sequence and left it then and there? Or even liked it and haven't seen it all??

I guess the BBS is a bit biased towards trek in general, but no one else will listen!

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I watched all of season 1, then apathetically tuned away during season 2. It was either ANIS or that Risa episode that did me in on the series.

I had already formed my opinion by the start of season 2. Seasons 3 and 4 did manage to budge my apathy though, not by being "moar canon lulz" but by being fresher than the 2 years of itself and 7 years of Voyager that preceeded it. Took me a few years to come to this conclusion though. At the time, I loathed it entirely.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

I formed half of my opinion before the show started and the other half shortly after it aired. I was already kind of burnt out on the Star Trek concept having disliked Voyager and thinking the franchise needed some time off. When Enterprise came on I immediately disliked the portrayal of the Vulcans and the use of the Temporal cold war and my interest fell completely off.

I am in the process of giving it another go round. People speak highly of seasons 3 and 4 and I lately have felt the desire to not have a gap in my Star Trek life so I am giving it another shot watching the series from beginning to end. I've finished season 1 so far. I think the show still suffers from a tendency to steal too much from previous Trek and not know how to wrap episodes up believably, but I rate it ahead of Voyager.

 

[captcalhoun]

i enjoyed it. S4 was the best, but there were a few good episodes in the other three seasons as well. plus there were a couple of not-so-good to stinky episodes in S4.

mentioning no titles.

*cough*TATV*cough*

 

[Gotham Central]

i enjoyed it. S4 was the best, but there were a few good episodes in the other three seasons as well. plus there were a couple of not-so-good to stinky episodes in S4.

mentioning no titles.

*cough*TATV*cough*

I've watched all 4 seasons. Though season 4 was a vast improvement, it simply could not make up for the lack of creativity that dominated the series.

 

[Jadzia]

I didn't like the look of it from the trailers. I watched episodes 1-4 from season 1, but didn't like it. Then watched about 10 more random episodes from seasons 1 and 2, and I still didn't like it.

When season 3 came out I didn't feel motivated to watch any more. That was the end of it for me.

Enterprise was too dark and gritty, which wasn't helped by Archer's personality, looking down his nose at people and his constant assertive tone of voice.

It was a much more generic sci-fi show, trying far too hard to tell it's story, and missing the important details of trek. It wasn't a pleasant escapism like the others. Nor did it have the vital components; the ethical and idealistic content... so not your typical trek.

 

[Dr. M'benga]

My experience is much like the others here. I watched the first few episodes, was alternately bored out of my skull or disappointed with its content, and said "Forget it." The few times I took a peek over the years, I felt it hadn't improved. As for not spending a hundred hours of my life to give it a chance, I didn't feel it was a) worth the investment or b) "really" Star Trek anyway. Having said that, I felt the same way about TNG back in '87 but grew to love it later. Therefore, I am currently giving S1 another go on Netflix but so far it's not looking too promising. I care about none of the characters except Porthos.

 

[Klaitu]

I watched it all the way through.

Every TV series is like an oatmeal raisin cookie. Nobody in the universe likes raisins, so everyone is after the cookie part.

You can try to pick the raisins out, but no matter what you do, you're going to get the vile taste of raisin flavor seeping in.

TOS, TNG, and DS9 were mostly cookie.

VOY and ENT were mostly raisins.

Still, there was always SOME cookie in there if you were willing to pick out enough of those raisins..

As for people not watching Enterprise.. what else were you going to watch? It's not like there's a ton of great sci-fi on at the moment.

 

[CorporalClegg]

^
Umm.... I like raisins.

I think Enterprises biggest problem is it didn't take any chances. I was too dark in appearance, but not in execution. It just played it safe and bland.

 

[WillsBabe]

I think I watched most of Enterprise, and by that I mean, that I've watched episodes from all seasons, but probably not all episodes. I really can't remember much about it and was never really interested in it. However, I really enjoyed the episode Twilight and would probably put it in my list of top trek episodes.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

When I first started hearing about the upcoming ENT series, I was excited about the possibilities of such a show. Once I'd seen the first few episodes, though, I realized it was just more of the same from The Franchise. I really couldn't see much difference at all from the typical VOY episode...right down even to the annoyingly banal background music.

I did revisit the show when they did the TOS crossover episodes featuring the Defiant and the Mirror Universe. I admit those episodes were amusing (in a Peter David novel "spot the Easter eggs" kind of way) but certainly not enough to win me back to the series.

I asked him whether he'd watched it all the way through, and he said 'no'. I was kinda stumped! I thought series 3 & 4 were better, and was curious how he could base his opinion on something he hasn't seen all the way through?!

Are you really saying a viewer should be required to watch all four seasons of the show in its entirety before he is allowed to decide he doesn't like it? Really now, don't you find that a bit...unrealistic?

 

[Michael]

I watched all of Enterprise. I liked many episodes. I loved a few.

 

[Gorf]

I have to admit that I haven't watched a single episode of Enterprise yet. I never managed to warm up to TNG or DS9 so I didn't feel eager to try Enterprise as well.

As you say I can't judge the show without having seen it and so I won't.

However, I do think that a show needs to capture its audience right away or they're in trouble. Voyager did that for me. There's no way I'd continue watching if the episodes bored me.

 

[BillJ]

I have to admit that I haven't watched a single episode of Enterprise yet. I never managed to warm up to TNG or DS9 so I didn't feel eager to try Enterprise as well.

As you say I can't judge the show without having seen it and so I won't.

However, I do think that a show needs to capture its audience right away or they're in trouble. Voyager did that for me. There's no way I'd continue watching if the episodes bored me.

Being a Voyager fan, the others may be a bit to sophisticated for you.

(I kid)

 

[milo bloom]

We watched the first season pretty religiously and into the second, but started drifting away and barely saw any of the third season, and then when people started talking about the 4th season we started watching again and really liked what we saw. I picked up S4 on DVD and we rewatched S4 pretty straight through, and the only stinkers were the first eps finishing the S3 cliffhanger and of course TATV.

Going in I wanted to like it, mainly because I was expecting stuff like S4 from the very start. I still maintain a prequel series could have been done and been done well, you just have to realize that the audience will have expectations and to not give them the middle finger just because.

 

[Praetor]

I watched all of season 1, then apathetically tuned away during season 2. It was either ANIS or that Risa episode that did me in on the series.

I had already formed my opinion by the start of season 2. Seasons 3 and 4 did manage to budge my apathy though, not by being "moar canon lulz" but by being fresher than the 2 years of itself and 7 years of Voyager that preceeded it. Took me a few years to come to this conclusion though. At the time, I loathed it entirely.

This for me too, almost exactly.

(Jitty, I thought I asked you to stop reading my mind. )

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Yeah I watched ENT all the way through. My opinions:

S1-2 - horrible
S3 - an improvement, but still not good enough
S4 - definite improvement, enough that I was sorry it got cancelled

I see no reason why people have to watch something all the way through to have an opinion on it. That would mean there would be no purpose to discussing a show while it is airing, since nobody's opinions would be valid till the show ends. Would suck all the fun out of this place.

It's very rare for me to watch two whole seasons of a show I think is "horrible." That's pretty wacky, right? I only do that for Trek. For everything else, if you bore me during the first 15 minutes of the first episode and I see no possibility of improvement or anything interesting emerging, 15 minutes is all you get. For most shows, they're lucky if they get a whole hour of my time. Most shows suck, why waste time on them?

 

[Praetor]

I think it was also a rather ridiculous notion that this or any show needs 'time to find an audience' as a polite way of acknowledging that it's sucking and that they're trying to fix it.

TNG, DS9, and VGR were each rather lucky in that regard. This is probably more proof of the 'rule of exhaustion.'

 

[mythme]

I didn't mind season one but season two made me zoned out. Oh, it would still be on, but I found my attention easily drawn away be the time the first commercial came on. ENT became background noise. It was the string of duds that did it - "A Night In Sickbay", "Mauraders", "The Seventh", "The Communicator", "Singularity", Vanishing Point" and "Precious Cargo", "Dawn" and "Stigma" were all bland, boring, rehashed or just BAD, with only "The Catwalk" being slightly interesting. The rest of the season was a BIT better (namely "Future Tense", "Cogenitor", "Regeneration" and "First Flight"). But I'm sure the majority of average viewers completely turned out half-way through the second season - ENT dropped the ball BIG TIME and never recovered ratings-wise after this awful stretch.

Luckily, I was paying attention to "The Expanse" which piqued my interest enough to watch (and mostly enjoy) season three. I thought season four was stellar.

I've said it many times before in the forums here. Season Two of ENT, probably the worst in all of Trek. Season Four, one of the best. Despite a terrific comeback in terms of quality, it was simply too late. Pity.

 

[Marie1]

I watched it through, and I'll say I liked most of it, and don't regret watching a lot of it. I had some issues, and in a way, they pulled a DS9- If you're having a war or war like situation- show the war. No one is spending days off playing when ____ is about to be obliterated, I'm quite sure.