Nero's Defeat & How The Film Begins (SPOILERS)

[All Seeing Eye]

Nero's ship obviously gets sucked into a blackhole. I can't believe they showed it on a trailer. But I suppose it was obvious.

 

[Brent]

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In the trailer the ship is coming OUT of the rift, IMO it is the time rift anomaly that it comes through to travel into the past.

 

[Kpnuts]

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Yup, surely that much is obvious?

 

[pookha]

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^^ yeah that is what i thought

 

[All Seeing Eye]

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Spoiler: how the film STARTS:

In the trailer we see a planet being destroyed, it is my theory that it is the destruction of Vulcan sometime in the 2380's and that's why Spock goes back in time, he goes back to try and stop Nero destroying Vulcan but ends up in the 23rd century and so does Nero after he goes after Spock. In the 23rd century however Nero goes after Earth and fires at San Francisco with his weapon.

 

[Michael]

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Spoiler: how the film STARTS:

In the trailer we see a planet being destroyed, it is my theory that it is the destruction of Vulcan sometime in the 2380's and that's why Spock goes back in time, he goes back to try and stop Nero destroying Vulcan but ends up in the 23rd century and so does Nero after he goes after Spock. In the 23rd century however Nero goes after Earth and fires at San Francisco with his weapon.

Which has what to do with your initial post?

 

[Brent]

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Spoiler: how the film STARTS:

In the trailer we see a planet being destroyed, it is my theory that it is the destruction of Vulcan sometime in the 2380's and that's why Spock goes back in time, he goes back to try and stop Nero destroying Vulcan but ends up in the 23rd century and so does Nero after he goes after Spock. In the 23rd century however Nero goes after Earth and fires at San Francisco with his weapon.

yeah, ok, and?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

yeah, ok, and?

and that's what the film is about. Why else would we see the destruction of a planet? it makes sense that it's Vulcan of the 2380's and it gives a good enough reason why Spock time travels and Nero goes after him.

 

[Canadave]

Star Trek has never been great with physics, but they have at least never (that I can recall) tried to pull off the old "black holes must be actual holes-in-space" trick, so I doubt they'd start now.

 

[Brent]

yeah, ok, and?

and that's what the film is about. Why else would we see the destruction of a planet? it makes sense that it's Vulcan of the 2380's and it gives a good enough reason why Spock time travels and Nero goes after him.

that is wonderful, what does it have to do with the original post?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Star Trek has never been great with physics, but they have at least never (that I can recall) tried to pull off the old "black holes must be actual holes-in-space" trick, so I doubt they'd start now.

Black Holes ARE holes in space. Neros weapon drills to the centre of planets and creates black holes and the planet implodes into it. The trailer shows us that his weapon is made to back fire or set off early and his ship gets sucked into one.

yeah, ok, and?

and that's what the film is about. Why else would we see the destruction of a planet? it makes sense that it's Vulcan of the 2380's and it gives a good enough reason why Spock time travels and Nero goes after him.

that is wonderful, what does it have to do with the original post?

This thread is about Neros defeat AND the start of the film.

What point are you trying to make here? am I not allowed to express my different theories?

If you have a problem with me posting both my theories can you explain why please?

 

[Brent]

Star Trek has never been great with physics, but they have at least never (that I can recall) tried to pull off the old "black holes must be actual holes-in-space" trick, so I doubt they'd start now.

Black Holes ARE holes in space. Neros weapon drills to the centre of planets and creates black holes and the planet implodes into it. The trailer shows us that his weapon is made to back fire or set off early and his ship gets sucked into one.

no it doesn't, in the trailer his ship is moving through it, coming out of it, it is what the time rift he comes through looks like, has nothing to do with the planet IMO

 

[All Seeing Eye]

no it doesn't, in the trailer his ship is moving through it, coming out of it, it is what the time rift he comes through looks like,

That's not a fact, just an opinion like mine.

has nothing to do with the planet IMO

To me it does, as far as i'm concerned the planet being destroyed is thanks to Neros blackhole weapon and the trailer as far as i'm concerned is showing Neros ships being destroyed by his own blackhole weapon gone wrong.

I'm just giving you my opinion on sections of the trailer and how I think the film will begin and end. If it turns out i'm right I can say I told you so.

 

[Kpnuts]

That's not a fact, just an opinion like mine.

No it's fact, Nero's ship is coming out of the vortex. Probably after he just travelled through time.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

That's not a fact, just an opinion like mine.

No it's fact, Nero's ship is coming out of the vortex. Probably after he just travelled through time.

Why is it a fact? the camera view of his ship and the 'blackhole or vortex' moves around the ship slightly making it difficult to say for sure if it's coming out or going in. My good eye say's it going in.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

That's not a fact, just an opinion like mine.

No it's fact, Nero's ship is coming out of the vortex. Probably after he just travelled through time.

Why is it a fact? the camera view of his ship and the 'blackhole or vortex' moves around the ship slightly making it difficult to say for sure if it's coming out or going in. My good eye say's it going in.

Well the preview showing of a few scenes the Abrams had which has been talked about here syas time vortex.

 

[Gepard]

Why is it a fact? the camera view of his ship and the 'blackhole or vortex' moves around the ship slightly making it difficult to say for sure if it's coming out or going in. My good eye say's it going in.

Well my good eye disagrees with you.

 

[Kpnuts]

That's not a fact, just an opinion like mine.

No it's fact, Nero's ship is coming out of the vortex. Probably after he just travelled through time.

Why is it a fact? the camera view of his ship and the 'blackhole or vortex' moves around the ship slightly making it difficult to say for sure if it's coming out or going in. My good eye say's it going in.

No, it's clearly coming out of the vortex. Watch it again.

Why would they show Nero's ship getting swallowed into a blackhole? I mean seriously.

Also, notice the big sun in the background? That's during the battle with the Kelvin at the start of the movie.

Seriously mate, it's exiting the vortex. We have no idea how the ship gets destroyed.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Well regardless of whether the trailer scene is infact a black hole (which I still believe) I still say that's how his ship is defeated, that it will be sucked into a black hole, you heard it here first folks.

I also still believe the reason Spock time travels is because Nero destroys Vulcan (the planet we see destroyed in the trailer) in the 2380's, you heard it here first folks.

 

[Kpnuts]

I think you're getting the perspective wrong. Watch it again. The clip starts from sideways onto the vortex, and the camera moves BEHIND the vortex, not in front (like I first thought on first viewing)

See it now?