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The sheer emotion of that trailer

That is exactly what I fear. The feeling that I had walking out of ID4. Jesus. That was one craptastic film. Mindless action and expensive special effects. It is absolutely one of the worst films ever made. I shudder to think that some people hope that Trek XI will be like that.
No, no, no. You've got me all wrong. I realize that ID4 had some serious problems - after the fact. But see, the thing is that I don't go to movies to pick them apart. I go to enjoy myself.

Sure, you realize things afterward - or have them pointed out to you - like that the AIs in The Matrix could have saved themselves a lot of time and trouble by powering themselves with the electrical impulses of cows kept happy with simulated 4 bit grass. But if you're like me, while you're watching it, all you care about is "I know kung-fu."

Yeah, but in ID4's case stupidity was not the kind that would be pointed out afterwards, it was grabbing you by the collar and hitting you at the face repeatedly during the whole length of the movie.
 
Yeah, but in ID4's case stupidity was not the kind that would be pointed out afterwards, it was grabbing you by the collar and hitting you at the face repeatedly during the whole length of the movie.
Not me. For me, what was grabbing me was a scantily clad Vivica Fox, "I know you didn't just shoot that green shit at me!", the president from nuBSG dying tragically (surprise!), and Randy Quaid's "I'm back!" Oh, and major landmarks getting blown-the-f***-up.

Like I said, I can see the problems after the fact, but the only scene that broke me out of my suspension of disbelief while I was actually watching the movie was the conversation between Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum sitting in the fighter inside the mothership waiting to set the nuke. There was something about the editing in that scene that threw the whole thing off.
 
Yeah, but in ID4's case stupidity was not the kind that would be pointed out afterwards, it was grabbing you by the collar and hitting you at the face repeatedly during the whole length of the movie.
Not me. For me, what was grabbing me was a scantily clad Vivica Fox, "I know you didn't just shoot that green shit at me!", the president from nuBSG dying tragically (surprise!), and Randy Quaid's "I'm back!" Oh, and major landmarks getting blown-the-f***-up.

Ah, you see awesome, I see embarrassingly lame.
 
I loved it that much too!

Easily the best STAR TREK movie trailer in at least seventeen years.
 
I think the emotion comes from the moment Kirk sits in the big chair. His head is bowed.

It's like he's thinking, "I'm humbled, I'm scared... but I have to take this moment, and live up to it, and get it right."
 
I liked what Pike said prior to his "your father was captain" line:

"I couldn't believe it when the bartender told me who you are..."

It certainly establishes that James Kirk is somebody of note and reputation well before becoming the hero was was destined to be.
I think it was more because Pike either served with George Kirk at one time, or simply because George was a hero who died in the line of duty, and everyone knew about him. Jim doesn't seem to be anybody special at that point.
 
I liked what Pike said prior to his "your father was captain" line:

"I couldn't believe it when the bartender told me who you are..."

It certainly establishes that James Kirk is somebody of note and reputation well before becoming the hero was was destined to be.
I think it was more because Pike either served with George Kirk at one time, or simply because George was a hero who died in the line of duty, and everyone knew about him. Jim doesn't seem to be anybody special at that point.

That's the way I took it, too. "That's George Kirk's kid? Winona must be crying her eyes out somewhere."
 
I think the emotion comes from the moment Kirk sits in the big chair. His head is bowed.

It's like he's thinking, "I'm humbled, I'm scared... but I have to take this moment, and live up to it, and get it right."

I figured he was thinking more along the lines of "Oh God, what do I think I'm doing?!", but I was thinking your stuff too.


J.
 
A.F.I. have just released their list of 100 best movies of all time.

1. Citizen Cane
2. The Godfather
3. Gone With The Wind
4. "Star Trek" Trailer #2
5. Lawrence of Arabia
6. Police Academy 4
7. The Graduate
8. Schindler's List
9. Passion of the Christ
10. Singing In The Rain
 
A.F.I. have just released their list of 100 best movies of all time.

1. Citizen Cane
2. The Godfather
3. Gone With The Wind
4. "Star Trek" Trailer #2
5. Lawrence of Arabia
6. Police Academy 4
7. The Graduate
8. Schindler's List
9. Passion of the Christ
10. Singing In The Rain
It would have made #1 if they'd included Captain Robau. The short-sighted fools!
 
STAR TREK VI had an awesome trailer. Made a lot of people think Kirk was going to die in that one. Few realized the Kirk being vaporized was an early f/x shot of the Martia shapeshifter.
 
I liked the Star Trek VI teaser trailer narrated by Christopher Plummer that showed clips from both the movies and the tv shows and invites the audience to join them for one last adventure.
 
I liked the Star Trek VI teaser trailer narrated by Christopher Plummer that showed clips from both the movies and the tv shows and invites the audience to join them for one last adventure.

Yes.
It is a fantastic teaser that one.

And the way the images from TOS episodes and the first five movies were superimposed over the body of the refitted NCC-1701 as she swooped overhead and jumped to warp? Beautiful. Great background music as well.
 
I liked the Star Trek VI teaser trailer narrated by Christopher Plummer that showed clips from both the movies and the tv shows and invites the audience to join them for one last adventure.
Yeah, I loved that teaser. That one really got an emotional response out of me.
 
Plummer: "Join them...for one LAST adventure.

For at the end of history lies...the Undiscovered Country."


Lovely.
 
...Trek needs some real, vivid characterization, and I get the feeling that's what this movie will deliver...

I see the opposite. I think TREK has always excelled at character, it's the productions that have lagged behind to backup, pump up, highlight and reinforce characterization in the movies. With 150 million and talented people, that might not be a problem this go around.
 
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My only complaint about the music is that it's too synthesized and I would prefer orchestral score to a synthesized one. I think Star Trek needs to stay with the orchestral quality of the past movies. So, I hope that the trailer score is just that...for the trailer!

I love orchestral scores over most synthesized ones, but not for this TREK movie, not if the orchestral music sounds dated or traditional. If a synthesized score sounds more contemporary, lets have it. This TREK movie must move TREK to a new kind of audience. I'm willing to accept a new kind of sound if it appeases current taste.
 
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