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And I'm trying not to think at all about eddie's cold sores, crappitycrapcrapcrap...
Even you've got to admit that's a bit more interesting.
Panoramas of Enterprise interior on official site
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Even you've got to admit that's a bit more interesting.
The E-A had Jefferies "corridors" that were bright, curved, and white:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch9/thefinalfrontier0716.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch9/thefinalfrontier0717.jpg
And "engineering" looked that way too...
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch5/thefinalfrontier0300.jpg
... complete with consoles that look a lot like those seen in the panoramas.
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch9/thefinalfrontier0716.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch9/thefinalfrontier0717.jpg
And "engineering" looked that way too...
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch5/thefinalfrontier0300.jpg
... complete with consoles that look a lot like those seen in the panoramas.
Wow, that engineering set is quite similar. Abrams wants STXI to be like TFF, you heard it here first!
Actually, the design work from TFF was the best of any of the movies, imo, regardless of what people say about the movie itself. They had the bright white bridge going on in TFF too.
Actually, the design work from TFF was the best of any of the movies, imo, regardless of what people say about the movie itself. They had the bright white bridge going on in TFF too.
Wow! Pretty obvious that this
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch5/thefinalfrontier0300.jpg
Is a cheap redress of this
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch9/thefinalfrontier0717.jpg
I keep forgetting how cheap TFF was.
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch5/thefinalfrontier0300.jpg
Is a cheap redress of this
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch9/thefinalfrontier0717.jpg
I keep forgetting how cheap TFF was.
Who passed it off as fact? and what facts are there in insults?
Based on interviews with cast members, writing staff who would have actually been working with Berman long term unlike Dennis. Or say, yourself.
Same goes for most people I think since Mike Sussman wrote some great episodes, worked on the show for quite a while and is far nicer.
But then I don't claim to hold my opinions above his or spout crap like "you don't know what went on behind the scenes" as some sort of insider defence for Berman.
And the same goes for every Star Trek fan who dislikes this new movie, the look of the ship or who hates Berman and Enterprise. As much as you dislike people been critical of this movie (even though they have never seen it, like you've never worked with Berman) they can still say what they like. So you and Dennis have to live with that too.
I don't claim to be. Nor do I have a stick up my ass about people loving or hating Rick Berman.
No shit Sherlock. You've earned your 3 cents for the day.
Well, that and the engine room from the movies had been cannibalized for TNG by that time. IIRC, TFF was shooting at the same time TNG was shooting it's second season, which may be the reason they didn't do a redress of the engineering set as they did in TUC.
True, If I remember correctly there is another shot in TFF where you either see the warp core or a reflection of it and it's the TNG warp core with no attempt to hide it.
That movie had the best bridge set of any of the films (Meyer fucked it up in TUC). It was as close to the TOS bridge as you're ever going to see in a Trek movie.
I liked a few of the TUC bridge changes. The science station was in a more natural spot. But you are probably thinking of the big goofy digital clocks. They did suck.
TFF is just an odd bird for me as far as art direction. Some things like the bridge design, phasers and away team uniforms are great. Then again the shuttles are fugly and the shuttlebay is best not spoken of. The transporter effect however is my all-time favorite.
Let's not forget the helm's ability to not only engage at warp speed, but also mix the raddest sounds!
I can't think of a single thing that Meyer did to the FF bridge that improved it, including tearing up the carpet and going for the darker color scheme.
^^
To me, the TFF bridge looked way too much like the TNG-era, like there had been very few style changes in seven or eight decades.
To me, the TFF bridge looked way too much like the TNG-era, like there had been very few style changes in seven or eight decades.
I wonder why the Communication Terminal in Corridor-B is on a Free Standing Pedestal (which is labeled COMM-8) instead of on the wall?
Any guesses??
Oh, BTW... It's got a spot that you can click on now for a close-up.
It's also got what looks like a diagram/graphic of the nuEnterprise Primary Hull (as seen from below) built into it.
Which is kinda cool, as it seems to be a reference that that area is the Communications Coil. (like in TWOK)
And a very prominent B-4 as part of the graphics. (...shades of 'Nem-i-mess')
Any guesses??
Oh, BTW... It's got a spot that you can click on now for a close-up.
It's also got what looks like a diagram/graphic of the nuEnterprise Primary Hull (as seen from below) built into it.
Which is kinda cool, as it seems to be a reference that that area is the Communications Coil. (like in TWOK)
And a very prominent B-4 as part of the graphics. (...shades of 'Nem-i-mess')
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Maybe it is realistic, go into a 7-11 at 3AM or many professional businesses and there's lots of bright harsh flourescent lights. I guess I generally don't find such experiences particularly nice so that taints my judgment somewhat as to how much I *like* the design. There does seem to be a real "Apple" aesthetic to it all.
He ruined it for sure.
The TNG era shared a great deal with the TOS era (by that I mean literally TOS, not the TOS-based movies): a brightly-lit bridge with carpet and various color contrasts all around.
It's true that the very earliest TOS episodes featured more muted lighting on the bridge, but that was abandoned fairly early on.
There's not much of the interior design in the TOS-based movies that I ever cared for. The bridge was an annoying, bland, empty set. The best things about the TOS-based movie sets were the corridors and main engineering, which were carried over pretty much intact with embellishments into TNG.
Model design for the TOS-based movies was significantly better than the set design. Costume designs generally did not wear well (no pun intended) and I was thrilled to see Theiss return and throw all of that away for TNG - just as I'm really pleased to see TOS-like costume design resurrected for Abrams's movie.
Even the warp core in both TFF and TUC was just a shameless redress of the 1701-D warp core in the later series. They just slapped some late 23rd century Okudagrams and labels on panels and controls to make it appear different and more primitive.
The snake was eating its own tail.
The Refit sets were redressed into TNG sets, which were then redressed back into Refit sets again. It was fairly obvious right from the start that the Enterprise-D corridors and engineering were just the TMP sets with some new stuff added.
But as far as original design work goes, TFF had a load of great stuff. The bridge, the hangar, the shuttles, the phasers, the combat uniforms, the jefferies tubes, they were as close to TOS on the big screen as we got and they looked better than the TMP versions, imo. Plus I liked the wheel room, I thought that was a pretty neat idea for a lounge.
I'm liking Trek XI starship corridors...
They look good to me. These make me want to run down them, towards a transwarp drive, and sprint faster into the future, so that I can watch Trek XI soon - in other words - I can't wait for May!
LOL...
They look good to me. These make me want to run down them, towards a transwarp drive, and sprint faster into the future, so that I can watch Trek XI soon - in other words - I can't wait for May! LOL...
Agreed... the design for TFF was actually quite good. I liked everything in it but the SFX (which were subpar by ANYBODY's standard) and the humor (which was disrespectful to every character, including Kirk, as far as I'm concerned). The overall storyline, honestly, I think was probably a good one that got ripped apart by "committee filmmaking." (Or rather, by one person trying to handle more than he really could, and then letting things go by various people with various visions, all trying to serve multiple masters, with no one really in control).
I wonder what we might have gotten had this film been helmed by an experienced filmmaker with enough (dare I say it?) "street cred" to ensure that things went as he wanted them to, rather than trying to please everyone (and thus eventually pleasing no one).
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