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(SciFiNow Magazine) - Orci/Kurtzman: Star Trek needs Rock and Roll

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Totally worked for NEM.
 
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There is only one guy I want writing the next feature if there is one, the guy with the best script no matter who that would be. Now who is to judge -orci and kurtzman? The talentless studio heads? There is no more altruism where that kind of money is concerned. There is only viscious predators. They should appoint someone nuetral who could be unbiased.
 
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You've been watching the trailers with your eyes but have you been hearing them with your ears? I hear at least some character development within them.

Well, I said I hope there's some strong character development, and not just lightweight stuff people yawn through waiting for it to rawk up. Recapturing the chemistry is another thing entirely, and I seriously doubt they'll get that, but if they get some I'll be fine with it.

It is an origins story and I suspect it will be chock full of character development.
We'll see. ;)

Totally worked for NEM.

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Re: Trekmovie.com article on Orci/Kurtzman: Star Trek needs Rock and R

Sure, none of us want to admit Wars had something over Trek but if it is true then shouldn't we just admit it to ourselves and move on? *ducks*

The biggest benefits that Star Wars had are that it was a movie first and that there was a whole lot less of it. If Star Wars had hundreds of episodes, TV shows airing while the movies were, and the audience had been burned out, it'd be in the same position as Trek. In general, the interest in Star Wars has declined over time, but not as rapidly as Trek.

I just don't think there's any part of Star Wars' formula that can be adapted to Star Trek to sit more butts in the theater.
 
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They have a stormtrooper riding a hoverbike.

They have a very very deep pit for Kirk to almost fall into.

They are giving Sulu a sword and turning him into a 'badass'. I guess this version of Sulu doesn't grow plants in his room...he collects sharp objects...

They have a planet-killing "laser"[/Dr.Evil].

It seems almost as if Abrams is trying to make the movie something different than old Trek. Doesn't Abrams know that Trek is all about making everything as nerdy and needlessly technical as possible? I need my corridor walking scenes, dammit. If I were making this movie I would set it in the 27th century. Because then the technobabble would be slightly different. That's progress.

WITH SCIENCE!
 
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What I got from it is that they are going to spice up the space battles. They made mention that Star Trek was always more like submarine battles, IE slow and tactical. Star Wars battles were intense. They seemed to indicate that they wanted to introduce the intense look of space battle to Star Trek. I wouldn't mind that at all.
 
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What I got from it is that they are going to spice up the space battles. They made mention that Star Trek was always more like submarine battles, IE slow and tactical. Star Wars battles were intense. They seemed to indicate that they wanted to introduce the intense look of space battle to Star Trek. I wouldn't mind that at all.
And of course on the ice planet fighting the monster without a light saber!!
 
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for the record, this was a SciFiNow article, not TrekMovie
The difference btween Star Wars and Star Trek is it's the structure that supports the Star Wars films and the mythology but it's the ideas that keep star Trek afloat - metaphysical ideas. So the more of them there are in one story, the better the odds the story will stay afloat. Ideas should be commissioned by TPTB and weighed accordingly IMO.
 
for the record, this was a SciFiNow article, not TrekMovie
I've now amended the title to reflect that.

for the record, this was a SciFiNow article, not TrekMovie
The difference btween Star Wars and Star Trek is it's the structure that supports the Star Wars films and the mythology but it's the ideas that keep star Trek afloat - metaphysical ideas. So the more of them there are in one story, the better the odds the story will stay afloat. Ideas should be commissioned by TPTB and weighed accordingly IMO.
And I have no idea what your response has to do with what PowderedToastMan posted. Did you mean to respond to someone else and click on the wrong button?
 
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Star Trek has been deficient, testicularly speaking, for a number of years.
Excuse me, but weren't you the one who was satisfied with Star Trek: Enterprise, to the point of defending it?:vulcan:
 
Re: Trekmovie.com article on Orci/Kurtzman: Star Trek needs Rock and R

Star Trek has been deficient, testicularly speaking, for a number of years.
Excuse me, but weren't you the one who was satisfied with Star Trek: Enterprise, to the point of defending it?:vulcan:

I liked ENT a lot, but it very rarely had the big hairy dilithium cajones that TOS and DS9 did.

TNG was castrated and VOY was metrosexual.
 
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YES YES YES YES!! More Rock and Roll!!! By making it more like Star Wars!! Yes!!....Ohh...wait!

Not one person said..what they mean by "Rock and Roll.."



Its good to see JJ and the crew and saying that trek was not good, and it has to be more like Star Wars..


Did you even read what you quoted? Because if you did you would see how wrong your analysis of what they said is.

It sounds like he was right to me. It seems like the producers keep comparing this movie to Star Wars more than any fans have, and their comparisons usually come up saying that they want Star Trek to be more like Star Wars. In this case, they say that Star Trek was missing something that Star Wars had. It makes Star Trek seem like it's lacking or that even Star Wars is some epitome of greatness or apex of space fiction.

So you didn't read it either?
 
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Excuse me, but weren't you the one who was satisfied with Star Trek: Enterprise, to the point of defending it?

He would be one of a number, actually. I liked "Enterprise" quite a bit. Some people didn't. Not my problem.
 
I think its time Orci and Kurtzman stopped doing interviews and let the movie's actors take the lead in promoting this movie from here on out.

I'm tired of "hearing" about what Star Trek needed. Or specifically how it needed to borrow from Star Wars.

How about promoting Star Trek on its own merits. That would be good.
 
I think its time Orci and Kurtzman stopped doing interviews and let the movie's actors take the lead in promoting this movie from here on out.

I honestly can't recall the last time an actor said something interesting about a film prior to its release. Orci and Kurtzman may have exhausted everything they're willing and able to say at this point, but I don't think fresh PR blood is the answer, just give us the film. :lol:
 
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