What is the Worst Trek Film?
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Hear hear.
True, I voted for Insurrection, because it was indeed the worst of the ten (Nemesis was almost as stupid but not half as boring); however, First Contact probably had a more deleterious effect on the storytelling possibilities of the franchise than any other.
Then again, one look at the Romulan Empire in the novels makes me second guess myself on that.
Maybe I should've voted for FC or NEM. At least all Insurrection ruined was the Son'a.
And damnit, I liked Final Frontier.
First Cataract wasn't a film. It was a series of very expensive sketches tenuously strung together with lame music and terrible pacing.
I have to vote for Nemesis. As dodgy as TFF was in places, it did at least have the decency to treat the concept and source material with some semblance of respect, and there were some really nice character moments. Also, some of the sets were lovely - particularly the bridge and the officer's lounge.
Nemesis on the other hand was just a complete hatchet job from start to finish. The music was terrible, the sets were dull and cheap looking (did they really spend $60 million making it?), and the story was an insipid, uninspired rehash of TWOK, written mainly to appease Brent Spiner's annoying pretensions of theatricality. In short, utter drivel!
The only area where I can see Nemesis having an advantage over TFF is in visual effects, and even those weren't quite up to the standards ILM provided in the majority of Star Trek's other theatrical adventures.
Nemesis on the other hand was just a complete hatchet job from start to finish. The music was terrible, the sets were dull and cheap looking (did they really spend $60 million making it?), and the story was an insipid, uninspired rehash of TWOK, written mainly to appease Brent Spiner's annoying pretensions of theatricality. In short, utter drivel!
The only area where I can see Nemesis having an advantage over TFF is in visual effects, and even those weren't quite up to the standards ILM provided in the majority of Star Trek's other theatrical adventures.
Yeah, TFF is my least favorite classic cast movie. But it's still head and shoulders above INS and NEM in terms of story, heart and intentions even if the execution and effects were lousy. TFF had heart and great Troika character interaction.
It was John Romero's Starship of the Dead.
I can say the same about most John Woo movies.
I also voted "Insurrection." The story was basically a good idea, but the script was several rewrites away from an even passable movie, I think.
^Insurrection was the first Trek film that really felt like a direct to video B grader. It wasn't only just a two-part TNG ep, but it wouldn't have even been a very good two part TV episode.
None, they are all Trek and awesome.
Nemesis is my favorite and The Voyage Home least.
But that's just which one I would watch the most
or least, none of them are lacking in anyway.
Nemesis is my favorite and The Voyage Home least.
But that's just which one I would watch the most
or least, none of them are lacking in anyway.
Phlegmesis.
ST 5.
None, they are all Trek and awesome.
Nemesis is my favorite and The Voyage Home least.
But that's just which one I would watch the most
or least, none of them are lacking in anyway.
I love this guy. Aside from placement of favorite, I agree 100%.
INSURRECTION could have been a two-part DS9 episode with the TNG cast as sweeps-month guest stars, considering that Worf is in it, DS9 is mentioned at least once and even Quark and dabo girls showed up at the end in a deleted sequence that never made the final cut.
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