women's vs. men's departments

[Hermiod]

Just to clear that up, with "target" I didn't mean the shop. Just "target" in the sense of "aim".

Ah, okay.

Also, I don't get why it is a problem that women are interested in fashion. We are supposed to be the pretty ones, after all. Men don't necessarily need to look "pretty" to be considered attractive.

Shoes make or break an outfit, heels will give a woman a better silouette, so why should we not be interested in such essential items for our attractiveness, eh?

It's fine by me!!! And most other guys, too, we benefit from it after all.

Unfortunately, going back to the subject of who TV is aimed at, it's a female-orientated show - Sex and the City - that's probably done more to make people think that women are obsessed with shoes than any other.

I think young men are their key advertising target because they need to lure those men into the store. They've already succeeded in getting women to shop at Target - so to get women to buy more they just need to advertise those products (like all those shoes ) inside the store.

Well, I can't answer that because I can't see how Target advertise, not being an US resident.

Let's face it, it isn't an ideal world. Want to know what really annoys me? That toy shop online sites still divide toys into Boys and Girls toys! WTF? That, right there, is how these stereotypes get perpetuated.

It's the toys themselves that are really more of a problem, but then if I had a boy and a girl they'd both be playing with wonderful, gender neutral Lego.

 

[Laren]

I know of a pregnancy test ad which is clearly directed at men. Now that one I wouldn't have expected.

How does that work ? Are you supposed to trick the woman in your life in to peeing on it or something ?

I have no idea. But this commercial looks exactly like men's razor commercials, it has a very virile/agressive sounding male voice over that announces that this is the best pregnancy test that a stream of urine has ever hit. A commercial aimed at women would most likely not even mention the term "urine", I'm sure.
Maybe it's meant for the guys who are being sent by their women to the pharmacy to buy a test for them?

 

[msbae]

Besides, women's shoes are prettier to look at.

W3rd.

If Obama is smart, reeeeeaaaaaalllly smart, he'll tax shoes to bolster the economy!

That would probably backfire, causing women to spend less on shoes. Since High-heels make their legs and butt look good, I would consider this to be very bad. I'd even go so far as to say it would be a Hell-worthy trespass, going against the natural order of things. Of course, I'm exceptionally lascivious.

There are all female gyms. Just about one on every street corner. I think they're #2 behind Starbucks per capita. Don't know about where where you live but around here there aren't any all male gyms.

Why is that, do you suppose? So women can feel comfortable working out without fear them men are checking them out? Get over yourselves and sweat a little.

Well, as a man, I cannot help but be distracted by various parts of the female anatomy shaking, bouncing, et al. I don't mean to make myself look like a sleazeball in these situations, I just can't help myself. I'm practically required by nature to take a peek through the corner of my eye or look through a mirror's reflection. This common behaviour among men makes a lot of women uncomfortable. Therefore, there is a market for women-only gyms.

So, how much do you guys spend on flat screen tvs, computer parts, gaming gadgets, cars, stereo systems, dvd collections etc... ?

As much as I can. It's what I live for... In fact, I spent over $80 adding to my LP collection earlier this afternoon.

 

[Holdfast]

This thread needs more shoe.

I suggest a pair of my very masculine, green suede, embroidered dancing slippers...

 

[Hermiod]

^Did you steal those from the set of The Adventures of Robin Hood ?

 

[Cayla]

Maybe this might sound small-minded or ignorant of me or whatever but maybe the reason women think they're paid less is because they spend so much on shoes and come home with next to nothing where as guys have two or three pairs of shoes. One to work in, another to yard work in and another to and chillax in.

There was a time where I was the "bread winner" between my husband and I. The reason it changed is my husband found a company that offered him a higher position with twice the pay he was previously making, and I was then able to cut my hours to be able to take care of my ailing grandmother. One wouldn't hear me complaining about making less money than my husband, and I certainly don't spend all my money on shoes.

Guys, you ever spend More than $50 on a pair of shoes?

My husband spends $250.00 every year on one pair of boots for work. All the shoes in my closet doesn't even total to that amount.

 

[Holdfast]

^Did you steal those from the set of The Adventures of Robin Hood ?

No. From eBay.

They're pretty fun though, aren't they! Mind you, I've owned them a few years now and only had one opportunity to wear them - a Black Tie work party a couple of years ago. They got lots of attention, people wanting to stroke them and the like!

For more formal Black Tie parties, I wear a highly-polished pair of black lace-ups for a sleeker look. Yes, I know should get a pair of patent oxfords for these occasions, but frankly, I don't want to spend the money on them rather than a different pair of shoes.

 

[Rÿcher]

and I'll confess - every 4 or so years, I'll spring for a $120 pair of Dr. Marten's

 

[blablover5]

There are all female gyms. Just about one on every street corner. I think they're #2 behind Starbucks per capita. Don't know about where where you live but around here there aren't any all male gyms.

Why is that, do you suppose? So women can feel comfortable working out without fear them men are checking them out? Get over yourselves and sweat a little.

Ever see yogurt or a breakfast cereal marketed toward men? Apparently only women need to watch their figures and their calorie intake levels. Ever hear about prostate cancer awareness month? Does prostate cancer have a ribbon?

We're just hairless apes.

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

So Target who can do whatever the hell they want chooses to stock more women's clothes and accessories than male, so the hell what? To you this means women spend more on shoes and deserve to receive less money than men do for the same work?

You get the hell over yourself. And stop back peddling and pretending you didn't say that or it was a joke. I know this crap when I see it and it keeps getting pulled more and more here. You said it, you can't un say it.

Even with proof that some men here spend more on shoes than women here you still keep coming up with this random crap about nothing.

So just fucking stop with these threads where you spout off whatever drivel falls out of your brain to increase your post count and get recognized here. It's obvious that you're just saying inflammatory things to bring attention to yourself.

I'm sorry I got Hermy on his ad rant again. This thread really deserves an early death with some of the misogyny from the first post on.

 

[Hermiod]

I'm sorry I got Hermy on his ad rant again. This thread really deserves an early death with some of the misogyny from the first post on.

I hope I'm misunderstanding you here. If you think that my opinions on how men are presented in advertising is misogynistic then we have a problem here that we can't fix.

My beef with shoe stores is that they don't make room for those of us with large size feet - my sister has the same trouble because she's tall too, that's all.

 

[Holdfast]

...

You get the hell over yourself...

So just fucking stop with these threads where you spout off whatever drivel falls out of your brain to increase your post count and get recognized here...

I strongly suggest phrasing your complaints with the OP's subject/manner in a way that isn't so personally vitriolic.

 

[trampledamage]

I'm sorry I got Hermy on his ad rant again. This thread really deserves an early death with some of the misogyny from the first post on.

I hope I'm misunderstanding you here. If you think that my opinions on how men are presented in advertising is misogynistic then we have a problem here that we can't fix.

My beef with shoe stores is that they don't make room for those of us with large size feet - my sister has the same trouble because she's tall too, that's all.

I hear you on that last part! It's the same for large or small sizes - shops just don't stock them. I gave up going to British shoe shops because I could never find anything.

 

[blablover5]

I'm sorry I got Hermy on his ad rant again. This thread really deserves an early death with some of the misogyny from the first post on.

I hope I'm misunderstanding you here. If you think that my opinions on how men are presented in advertising is misogynistic then we have a problem here that we can't fix.

My beef with shoe stores is that they don't make room for those of us with large size feet - my sister has the same trouble because she's tall too, that's all.

No I understand you hate the way men are portrayed in ads and I do agree with you on it, I just didn't want to anger up your blood and I agree with you that finding shoes for people with big feet is impossible.

I'm a size 11 in womens here. I think that makes it, what, a 50 over there.

Also I'm sorry Holdy, but man has some of these threads lately been really He-Man woman hating and it's just the straw as it were.

 

[Hermiod]

No I understand you hate the way men are portrayed in ads and I do agree with you on it, I just didn't want to anger up your blood and I agree with you that finding shoes for people with big feet is impossible.

Fair enough.

I'm a size 11 in womens here. I think that makes it, what, a 50 over there.

All I know is that a UK men's size 13 is a US men's size 14. I only know this because the specialist Internet retailer I have to go to imports shoes from America because they can't source them in the UK, so my shoes always say size 14 - and I always forget that and think they've sent me the wrong size.

 

[Cayla]

Am I the only one amazed that Holdfast actually owns a pair of flip-flops?

 

[blablover5]

No I understand you hate the way men are portrayed in ads and I do agree with you on it, I just didn't want to anger up your blood and I agree with you that finding shoes for people with big feet is impossible.

Fair enough.

I'm a size 11 in womens here. I think that makes it, what, a 50 over there.

All I know is that a UK men's size 13 is a US men's size 14. I only know this because the specialist Internet retailer I have to go to imports shoes from America because they can't source them in the UK, so my shoes always say size 14 - and I always forget that and think they've sent me the wrong size.

I have a funny feeling sometimes it's even worse with women's as women are all supposed to have size 6 feet. If mine were that tiny I'd just fall over all the time.

All of us with big feet should band together, then hold our meeting in the woods and mess with some cryptozoologists.

 

[trampledamage]

All I know is that a UK men's size 13 is a US men's size 14. I only know this because the specialist Internet retailer I have to go to imports shoes from America because they can't source them in the UK, so my shoes always say size 14 - and I always forget that and think they've sent me the wrong size.

I always had the same problem! And I could never remember from one time to the next what was the right size for me.

 

[Laren]

I'm a size 11 in womens here. I think that makes it, what, a 50 over there.

Right.

Really, it sucks to have large-ish feet. I think I am an American size 9 or something like that (41, British size 7). I hate my clown feet, as I call them. Mostly because many shoes just don't look that good any more in larger sizes since they were designed to fit smaller feet.

 

[Hermiod]

I have a funny feeling sometimes it's even worse with women's as women are all supposed to have size 6 feet. If mine were that tiny I'd just fall over all the time.

All of us with big feet should band together, then hold our meeting in the woods and mess with some cryptozoologists.

I gave in and checked. A US women's size 11 is equivalent to a UK 9 and a European 43.

 

[Holdfast]

Am I the only one amazed that Holdfast actually owns a pair of flip-flops?

One pair of Nikes for round the house (generally, for going into the kitchen without having to stand barefoot on the cold floor there). The other pair are actually a leather sandal/flip-flop hybrid thing that I use on holiday, when on the beach or by the pool.