No need to be sorry.
I mean, it's not like you were wearing green dancing slippers, or something...
Hush. You'll hurt their feelings! They're very thin-soled.
women's vs. men's departments
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Hush. You'll hurt their feelings! They're very thin-soled.
No need to be sorry.
I mean, it's not like you were wearing green dancing slippers, or something...
Hush. You'll hurt their feelings! They're very thin-soled.
True story: I once went ballroom-dancing wearing a pair of combat boots.
This was years ago. I was taking ballroom-dancing lessons, along with some of my fellow students at the University of Regina.
It was Halloween, and I was feeling nostalgic, so I threw on a bunch of my old punk-rock junk, including the boots, for a costume party.
The costume party, however, was being put on by the dance studio at which we were taking lessons. And before the party started, the instructor insisted on holding a lesson.
Now--my fellow students knew my capabilities, and were okay with me as their partner, despite the boots: while I wasn't a great dancer, I was skillful and careful enough to not step on their toes.
But most of the women at the party were from other classes. So for the next hour, I danced with a series of poor terrified partners, all of whom were convinced (at first) that I was going to break every bone in their feet. The fact that I'm 6'4" didn't help at all.
All of their facial expressions went through the same transformation: from terror, to wariness, to smiling relief. "Hey, you're pretty good at this!" one of them said.
The night ended on a thoroughly surreal note, with a room full of costumed people doing the "tush push" to the tune of the "The Monster Mash."
I still have a few new pairs of shoes in the shipping boxes that I need to take out and put away. I'm always looking for an excuse to wear them.
I'm a fashionable guy, I like clothes and I like shoes. I'm no Holdfast...yet! But I take good notes.
Sometimes, on a cold day, there's nothing like hitting the shops up in an endless search for that perfect cable knit sweater that will accentuate my manly physique! My big shoulders, broad chest and (getting nicer everyday) stomach and waistline!
Time for a fun fact about me; I stick to white, black or khaki for 2 reasons. They're classics that will always be in fashion, and, the worst part, I'm color blind.
One of the main reasons I usually don't go clothes shopping alone. That, and it's always more fun with a friend!
I never paid much attention to those kinds of negative stereotypes. I know tons of girls who don't like shopping and know plenty of guy who love it.
In fact, I'm kinda bummed now. It's 8pm on a sunday night and now I want to hit the shops up, but they're all closed
I'm a fashionable guy, I like clothes and I like shoes. I'm no Holdfast...yet! But I take good notes.
Sometimes, on a cold day, there's nothing like hitting the shops up in an endless search for that perfect cable knit sweater that will accentuate my manly physique! My big shoulders, broad chest and (getting nicer everyday) stomach and waistline!
Time for a fun fact about me; I stick to white, black or khaki for 2 reasons. They're classics that will always be in fashion, and, the worst part, I'm color blind.
One of the main reasons I usually don't go clothes shopping alone. That, and it's always more fun with a friend!I never paid much attention to those kinds of negative stereotypes. I know tons of girls who don't like shopping and know plenty of guy who love it.
In fact, I'm kinda bummed now. It's 8pm on a sunday night and now I want to hit the shops up, but they're all closed
Personally, since I pretty much decided the opening post was BS, I've just been skimming Holdfast's posts in the hopes that I'll see some interesting shoes or something (nice green ones, btw 
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Unfortunately that's true for clothing as well. I thought I liked my cashmere sweaters until I threw on a mens cashmere sweater for the first time. What a difference!
Those of us who canibalise thrift store sweaters for knitting yarn look in the men's department for that reason... they have much nicer fiber, and less wear.
As to general stores not stocking as much choice in male items, perhaps it's because it's usually the long suffering wife, mother, and in some cases sister (I've seen this one myself), who go out to buy their men's personal items. The shops obviously recognise from which side their bread is buttered. OP, if you want all this to change, then more men need to stop being so damned reliant on their women!
A good point. Most men simply don't like to shop and women do most of the household shopping so most stores are going to cater to that.
You realize that at this point you're bailing water on the Titanic with a thimble ya?
Rÿcher
Fleet Captain
makin' an effort and every little bit helps or so I'm told.
You should probably go with
"I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound like a sexist, it was meant in jest but I see where I went wrong"
instead of trying to endlessly excuse it away with any straw you can grasp or throw the attention onto some other argument as a distraction. You don't come off as very sincere when you do that.
You trying to push the argument and people's feeling over to a discussion about religion makes you look disingenuous, like a bad magician trying to work slight of hand.
It hurts your sincerity when it looks like your throwing out any distraction you can.
So back on topic.
Guys, cable knit sweaters, the epitome of awesome?
Guys, cable knit sweaters, the epitome of awesome?
I had a somewhat similar experience, with a female friend of mine.
We went out onto the porch to have a smoke. It was the middle of winter, and the porch was unheated, so I lent her my overcoat. She expressed amazement at how comfortable and warm it was, and swore that she was going to buy her next overcoat in the men's department.
I think, once again, this reflects the perceived difference in priorities between men's and women's fashion. Clothiers know that most men take relatively little interest in fashion, and want to spend as little time in stores as possible. They will buy just one sweater, or one overcoat, and wear it continuously, sometimes for years. To take one extreme example: I have a favourite sweater that I've worn for six years now, and plan to keep on wearing until I wear holes in the elbows. Why should I buy a new sweater, when the one I have is still perfectly good?
Women, on the other hand, are expected to follow fashion more closely, and to replace their wardrobes more quickly. They are expected to care more about how it looks than how it wears. They are not expected to keep their clothes until they wear out. As a consequence, manufacturers feel able to cut corners, and make women's clothes more cheaply.
This has the added benefit of compelling women to live up to expectations: if they try to just keep wearing their clothes, like men do, they'll fall apart.
Historically, men's clothes were generally more expensive than women's clothes, for precisely this reason. The average middle-class man would, historically, pay much more for a suit than a middle-class woman would pay for a dress. But this ceased to be true during the twentieth century.
I think any perceptive person, male or female, understands that women's fashions are a scam, built on a foundation of planned obsolescence. I have often wondered why some clothing manufacturer doesn't make a grab for a larger market share, by offering better-quality, more durable merchandise. The most convincing explanation I've ever heard is that the women's fashion industry is an oligopoly, like the oil industry. If one major player tried to undercut the others in this fashion, the rest would simply be forced to follow suit, and everyone would wind up making less money. So they collude to keep prices as high, and quality as low, as possible.
I've noticed this happening to me with more frequency. Even some of the more expensive items I would buy would fall apart fairly quickly, and it left me feeling I was just wasting money. I've settled into a routine of buying fairly inexpensive items of low quality that appear better than they are. If I know I'm going to end up replacing them anyway, I don't want to spend as much on them in the first place.
I do make an exception for shoes though, and am willing to spend more on those.
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