As well it should have. It was excellent!
A Night in Sickbay's Hugo Award nomination
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As well it should have. It was excellent!
Don't know. The professionals liked it, hence the nomination. Perhaps our taste is more refined.
Penguin, that was exactly the joke. She was faster and Archer kept trying to keep pace physically and couldn't, hence why he was out of breath and she wasn't. She stopped because the argument was becoming futile and he was annoying her; Archer couldn't see past his pride and insisted he was in the right. Her comment to him was, "You think you know best, it's pointless for me to 'keep up.'" When she says, "I obviously can't keep up with you" look at Archer's reaction; he's about to lay into her again. Luckily Hoshi interrupts and gets Capt. Cranky Pants.
Her comment is Vulcan for "whatever."
I loved this scene -- probably one of my favorites in the show and possibly the series. She does indeed have the upper hand on him. The audience knows it and so do the characters. Archer's just stubborn. I also like it because they do indeed make the Vulcan faster with more stamina and in the right. I liked the role that T'Pol played (being the side of logic) in the first two seasons. I missed this in seasons 3 and 4.
I think that the problem some ENT fans have with ANIS is similar to the problem some Trek fans have with ENT. ENT tried to break some new ground in Trek (albeit not too well at times) via its portrayal of Archer being a leader with some fatal flaws. while they touted him as "Kirk's boyhood hero", they did not necessarily portray him as having some of more obvious virtues of the latter. instead, he embodied some of Kirk's not-so-hot traits: his arrogance, his stubbornness, his inability to step back and re-consider and re-assess etc. somehow, in the end... I guess TPTB hoped... that it would all hang together well and Archer's character would grow into the role. in the same way -- in their novel but much-derided (within general Trek fandom as well as without) treatment of the Vulcans, their at-times flagrant flouting of Trek Canon, their unconventional treatment of some the characters -- they received a whole lot of rotten tomatoes from Trek fandom.
however, I believe that as we step back and start to re-assess this show, we need to shed our individual affinities for this character or that character, this episode or that episode, this story arc or that, and try to gauge just what it was that TPTB had intended to deliver. sure, they may have failed largely, but I believe that they succeeded to a greater extent than we give them credit for. it's the same thing with Archer. sure, he had flaws and left many of us grinding our teeth and pissed off, but he was also kinda amazing in some deeply meaningful ways.
you could say the same thing with T'Pol and many of the other characters.
I kinda know what I am talking about because I went through the same thing with DS9 and Sisko. I was with it all the way through, living and breathing fandom in all its glory and frustration and then through its demise.
believe me, time brings some much-needed perspective.
I do understand that it's doubly hard for some of us who were with ENT all the way through, mainly because of its clearly undeserved (to me) abortion, but also because of the amount of derision and overall contempt it has received (and continues to receive) from so many quarters. But I believe detachment will come as time passes and allow us to see the show and its various aspects with clearer eyes.
Actually, I didn't mind "The Kiss." Archer is just as entitled to dream as anyone.you forgot the biggest one. THE reason Captain X and the rest of his compatriots on this board hate it so
yes, uh, huh, the kiss.
and I'm not gonna expand on that lest I be warned
What I despise about ANIS is this: Archer was already a turn-off for a lot of fans. So what did TIIC do? They made him look even worse.
-- He knows the Kretassans are very easily offended.
-- He knows the Kretassans don't even eat in the company of others.
-- He knows that even humans -- who love dogs -- don't like having their property turned into toilets for them.
-- He's been told by his hand-picked chief engineer that they need engine parts and the Kretassans produce quality goods.
-- And he actually suggests they can make do with what they have (despite Trip's expressed concerns that if they run into any more problems, the crew could be stranded light-years from aid).
So, what does Jonathan Einstein do?
He brings Porthos along on a trip to the Kretassan homeworld. The only heads up the Kretassans get is Porthos' genome. I doubt it supplied any clues as to dog's potty habits.
Porthos gets sick.
Archer's response? Blame the Kretassans.
Apparently Archer forgot that Porthos was born on Earth, was fully acclimated to the environment and could still contract a disease and die there. So obviously having the dog's genome wasn't all that helpful anyway.
And yeah, yeah, I've heard the argument that this was supposed to be an "after school special" for Captain Archer where he learns valuable lessons in humility and common sense in 42 minutes, but if your job is to serve as Earth's ambassador to other worlds, you should already be a grownup.
^ Whoa, you make an excellent point here. Not only does ANUS depict Archer as a sad, lonely, middle-aged walking hard-on, it also portrays him as an incompetent jerk unfit for command. But hell, he's still a much better CO than Janeway ever hoped to be, and unlike her, he never really did anything worthy of a court marshal... oh wait... *facepalm*
Yep, "A night in sickbay" - Star Trek at it's finest!
Yep, "A night in sickbay" - Star Trek at it's finest!
"ANiS" makes everyone look like a complete idiot except Phlox. And even he can't catch his pet bat with a net the size of a pickup truck.
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Which I found refreshing. People on this ship were human, and not the sterile protocol driven drones we saw in TNG.
I thought this episode was pretty good at showing that our heroes have flaws, they're not perfect, and still have a lot to learn.
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That and he put the whole "sexual tension" thing in Archer's head, then later on told him not to say anything about it. Creepy...
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That and he put the whole "sexual tension" thing in Archer's head, then later on told him not to say anything about it. Creepy...
Phlox is well established as a total pervert in the first season!
I totally agree. Archer comes across as totally incompetent, and a bit stupid to boot. The 'sexual' hints with T'Pol were a bit strange, but human I guess, even if it was Phlox who put the damn idea in his head in the first place. His stupidy regarding Porthos and the Kretassans is what drags the episode down.
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That and he put the whole "sexual tension" thing in Archer's head, then later on told him not to say anything about it. Creepy...
Phlox is well established as a total pervert in the first season!
Yeah. Phlox.
I think most of us could do without Archer being a midlife crisis-enduring fetish freak, though.
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It did put to rest the whole Archer/T'pol ship thing, after all.That and he put the whole "sexual tension" thing in Archer's head, then later on told him not to say anything about it. Creepy...
Phlox is well established as a total pervert in the first season!
Yeah. Phlox.
I think most of us could do without Archer being a midlife crisis-enduring fetish freak, though.
It did put to rest the whole Archer/T'pol ship thing, after all.
Yeah. Phlox.
I think most of us could do without Archer being a midlife crisis-enduring fetish freak, though.
Mercifully. I was never a fan of Trip and T'Pol having a "thing" going, but I could buy those two having strong feelings for one another a lot easier than I could the Captain and T'Pol.
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It did put to rest the whole Archer/T'pol ship thing, after all.Yeah. Phlox.
I think most of us could do without Archer being a midlife crisis-enduring fetish freak, though.
Mercifully. I was never a fan of Trip and T'Pol having a "thing" going, but I could buy those two having strong feelings for one another a lot easier than I could the Captain and T'Pol.
T/T was bound to happen. I could see that from the first episode. Of course I was hoping for a three way. My favourite ships were actually Reed/Hayes and Phlox/Porthos and I feel cheated we didn't get to see more of that.
no, I mean the super hot kiss.
you know, the one you and I and a ton of other folk have talked about for years and years on this very forum.
that one.
You must mean this:
no, I mean the super hot kiss.
you know, the one you and I and a ton of other folk have talked about for years and years on this very forum.
that one.
You must mean this:
Nothing beats hot Leaper-on-Beagle action in the mid-22nd century.
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Hoshi had more of a thing for Travis. T'Pol also had a thing for Porthos. That's why she and Phlox were always distant to one another. Travis is asexual and would rather spank it to Popular Mechanics than get it on with any of them. That's what he does when he goes to the "sweet spot."
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