B5: What untold stories would you like to see?

[David cgc]

Yeah.
"We went on their ship, and we found records that his great grandfather abducted my great grandfather, and just took him away in a spaceship! Frankly, your honor, we want damages."
"How do you plea?"
*Vree shows a large card with a elaborate crop-circle-style pattern on it*
"Can we get a translation team in here?"

 

[Tulin]

Yes, they did.

The plaintiff was John C. Flinn III which makes it even funnier, since the guy looks like a lumberjack in the off season.

 

[Sean_McCormick]

I want to know if the Vree still buzz backward worlds, probing the locals and mutilating the cattle?

That was them, huh?

So the 'Greys' are the Vree (in the B5 universe) and the Asgard in SG-1?

(Wonder what they are in the Trekverse...)

Well, going by look, the Zener and Streibs arec also likely candidates.

 

[Neroon]

Yeah.
"We went on their ship, and we found records that his great grandfather abducted my great grandfather, and just took him away in a spaceship! Frankly, your honor, we want damages."
"How do you plea?"
*Vree shows a large card with a elaborate crop-circle-style pattern on it*
"Can we get a translation team in here?"

Too bad about that case of Netter Syndrome he came down with.

 

[Reverend]

I hear that's brought about by being asked for a raise. Apparently the Vorlons get it something chronic.

[EDIT]

Almost forgot to mention; the B5/Roswell connection goes even deeper as the Earthforce base seen in "In The Beginning" (the one where Susan visits her brother) was the Wright-Patterson base in Dayton Ohio, home of Hangar 18.

 

[RoJoHen]

One thing I would really like to have is a timeline of the events that followed the end of the series, like a more detailed version of "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars." One thing I'm really interested in is how they rebuilt the Earth after the Great Burn and the involvement of the Rangers in that story. Obviously Brother Whatever from "Deconstruction" knew a lot more about what was going on than he let anyone know.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I've heard that this as a gag by JMS, while I've read that he was serious about this but I know that it appeared in the season one preview listing of episodes in a Cinefantastique issue. Nevertheless, I'd like to see a Harlan Ellison penned sequel to "Demon with a Glass Hand" where Trent comes to Babylon 5. When it was being touted about years ago, JMS refered to it as "Demon on the Run."

Hell, I'd just want to see a Harlan Ellison penned script. I've always wondered what the premise was of his "Midnight in the Sunken Cathedral." Of course, he later used the title for a short story that had no links to B5.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The thing that pisses me off is that we could never see a story called "The Fall of the Rangers" since that bloke from a million years in the future was a Ranger. ...Unless he was just had that Anlashok stuff in the same way War memorabilia people are Nazi fetishists and Confederate fetishist. Unlikely

Because lets face it, if everything was alright... No matter how cool the Vorlon homeworld was a million years ago, Humanity has had a million years to figure out what it likes and build a "home" to their unique likes and dislikes... Unless they had always been building temporary homes for thousands and thousands of years waiting for Vorlon space to open up since the earth became uninhabitable even for noncorporal beings like man.

It's possible that the earths sun going nova, EARLY, noted in the paper being read in the opening scenes of the pilot right next to the article about Clarke being suspected of being a Psi Corps Stooge, it's possible that the Earths sun going Nova REALLY EARLY because of the proximity of a Jump Gate fraking everything up, (Note according to the source book to the rpg, the Jump gate was put in earth orbit by the Centauri as a power play and a possible prelude to invasion before the humans moved it to IO...) But if Every sun in the galaxy that had had a Jump gate working in close proximity to it for a million years was going Nova billions of years early too, and since jump gates were all kinda built and placed about the galaxy across the same period in phases of expansion by each group of younger races of a hundred thousand years or some... One would think that Thousands and thousands of Suns, not many in the scheme of things but a decent number of the few solar systems which support life are all going nova nearly simultaneously across the space of just a few hundred thousand years... Which would be a galactic cataclysm!!! ...And of course the refugees and survivors would require a safe port on a world which weathered and tested and isn't going to explode in the next hundred years.

Okay. I think I just accidentally plotted "Fall of the Rangers."

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

But if Every sun in the galaxy that had had a Jump gate working in close proximity to it for a million years was going Nova billions of years early too, and since jump gates were all kinda built and placed about the galaxy across the same period in phases of expansion by each group of younger races of a hundred thousand years or some... One would think that Thousands and thousands of Suns, not many in the scheme of things but a decent number of the few solar systems which support life are all going nova nearly simultaneously across the space of just a few hundred thousand years... Which would be a galactic cataclysm!!!

Earth's sun didn't go nova because there was a jumpgate *near* it. There were jump points being opened up INSIDE the sun. Big difference there.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Okay? Where's that from?

And even so, unless the bad guys attacked, I would suspect that something like that would only be done for safety reasons like how they blow up suitcases suspected of being bombs at the airport to manage the imminent disaster... Because our sun in the real world will be well and safe in just a million years time I've heard people bitching about that episode for quite a while now.

 

[Reverend]

*beats Jan to it*
In the words of JMS...

And what if you, say, interfered substantially with the mass of the sun by, say, causing a series of jump points to open up *inside* the sun across several days?

You'd also substantially decrease the mass of Sol, which as I understand it, would result in the sun going nova.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Okay? Where's that from?

And even so, unless the bad guys attacked, I would suspect that something like that would only be done for safety reasons like how they blow up suitcases suspected of being bombs at the airport to manage the imminent disaster... Because our sun in the real world will be well and safe in just a million years time I've heard people bitching about that episode for quite a while now.

It was done for safety reasons, in a sense. Earth's technology could not be allowed to fall into the hands of the younger races. So the humans of 1 million years hence, destroyed Earth to prevent anyone else from getting ahold of its secrets.

 

[Jan]

*beats Jan to it*
In the words of JMS...

Yay! Thanks, Reverend. Sorry, I was asleep on the job.

Jan

 

[RoJoHen]

So they destroyed Earth in order to prevent younger races from getting ahold of the technology, and then they left for the Vorlon Homeworld, correct?

Why was this necessary? Couldn't they just "lock up" Earth from the younger races much like the Vorlons did for them? How did the Vorlons lock their homeworld away from the humans in the first place? I'm still pretty unclear about this whole thing. Do they have a Machine similar to that found on Epsilon 3, that will destroy anything that approaches until "the time is right"?

 

[Jan]

So they destroyed Earth in order to prevent younger races from getting ahold of the technology, and then they left for the Vorlon Homeworld, correct?

Strictly speaking, that's all supposition. All we know for sure is that the sun going nova wasn't a natural occurrance. We also don't know for sure that the future humans were actually going to the former Vorlon homeworld. It's only referred to as New Earth in the script.

Jan

 

[Reverend]

Well Jo says they are on the DVD commentary so I'm inclined to believe him.

As for who's behind it, it's clearly not humanity. There are much better ways to destroy a planet if that's what they really wanted. Though to be honest I can't see the point. Being at a Vorlon level of technology I can't see them having any more trouble keeping the new younger races out than the Vorlons did.

Whomever killed Sol is at least on par with the Anla'Shok (I do wonder if humans and Minbari are still two distinct races, or have become one by then) and are clearly not friendly.
The list of suspects is rather short; it's either one of the races we know that have survived the eons (Narn, Centauri, Drazi, Brakiri, Drakh, etc) a new race that has cropped up since the beginning of the third age, or a very old race. Which would probably mean either "The Hand", the Great Machine (Draal would be long dead) or the Old Ones (Thirdspace).

 

[Forbin]

I want to see the much-talked-out sock puppet version of the series.

 

[Jan]

Well Jo says they are on the DVD commentary so I'm inclined to believe him.

You're right, JMS does say that in the commentary. Thanks for the correction.

Jan

 

[Reverend]

Well Jo says they are on the DVD commentary so I'm inclined to believe him.

You're right, JMS does say that in the commentary. Thanks for the correction.

Jan

Don't feel bad, I've been running through most of the series getting reference caps of the logos and rank insignia and I happened to have deconstruction on just the other day.

I want to see the much-talked-out sock puppet version of the series.

The sock is mother, the sock is father. Trust the sock.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

...I do wonder if humans and Minbari are still two distinct races, or have become one by then...

I think that by DoFS humans and Minbari have come together as one race since one of JMS's original concepts for the show was that the Minbari were a dying people that needed to "come together" with the humans in order to survive. The child of Deleen and Sheridan was one step into that direction (or in one of the original iterations, the child of Deleen and Sinclair).

Of course, in the aired series, the merging of human and Minbari started with Sinclair travelling back 1,000 years and becoming Valen then siring children after the Great War with possibly Catherine Saki. Now that's a "Lost Tale" I'd like to see.


Perhaps, there are still regular, old-fashion stubborn humans, as a result of the Great Burn, running around somewhere in the galaxy.