Why I Couldn't Get Enough Enterprise.

[suebsg9]

After reading above I decided to pull up that scene on computer and find out exactly what she says.

Hoshi: "Didn't even graduate college. Learned about engineering working on boat engines, I think."

Has to be a continder for stupidest dialog in any Star Trek series. Right up there with some stuff from "Spock's Brain."

Thank you, SFRabid. I knew I wasn't crazy (about that quote, anyway).

Frankly, I don't see anything in particular about Trip that screams "hick!" Southern, yes, but there's nothing inherently uneducated about him. As a New Englander, my first reaction to him was You might be a redneck... - but then I realized I was making assumptions that weren't warranted at all. I, after all, had no problem with Lieutenant Reed's obvious accent - isn't that because an English accent is perceived to be more intelligent and classy than a southern one? T'Pol had a favorite cultural food; but that's okay because she's Vulcan. Archer's a "steak and potatoes" guy - perfectly acceptable. But when Trip opens his mouth and admits that his favorite food is quintessentially southern coastal, and OMG! plays a harmonica badly, I jump to the conclusion that he's a dumb hick. When in reality, he'd have to be a ridiculously talented, highly educated, VERY adaptable warp theory engineer to even get near this ship, let alone be on its crew, and beyond that to be its chief engineer. Was he as smart as T'Pol? Nobody was. Was he kind of provincial? Sure, but so was every human on that ship (and Phlox and T'Pol, too, on occasion).

I sound like a Trip apologist. Wow, don't know how that happened! I guess one of the reasons why I couldn't get enough Enterprise is that the characters were all endearing to me, quirks and all.

I like your description of Trip its great!!!

 

[SFRabid]

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I sound like a Trip apologist. Wow, don't know how that happened! I guess one of the reasons why I couldn't get enough Enterprise is that the characters were all endearing to me, quirks and all.

That is one reason I can watch reruns of Enterprise easier than any other ST series. I watch the little things that happens to the main characters as musch as I focus on the main plot.

 

[Shirl]

Hi everyone - just joining the boards today and I have a question that I really need the answer to ) ..... who sings the title song of the enterprise series ... I really love that song and sing it everytime it comes on LoL, but no matter how long and hard I stare at the credits, I cannot find the singer or the song title ... can anyone help please? ...... and I think T'pau [however it's spelt LoL] the vulcan is really cool.

 

[SFRabid]

Hi everyone - just joining the boards today and I have a question that I really need the answer to ) ..... who sings the title song of the enterprise series ... I really love that song and sing it everytime it comes on LoL, but no matter how long and hard I stare at the credits, I cannot find the singer or the song title ... can anyone help please? ...... and I think T'pau [however it's spelt LoL] the vulcan is really cool.

Russell Watson. That reminds me, I could take my Enterprise Soundtrack CD to Vegas and hope for a signature.

Anyway, you can search Amazon for "Star Trek Enterprise Soundtrack" and it will show up.

 

[Noname Given]

As a hard core original TOS fan, all my problems with Enterprise went away with the realization that the whole show was a parallel universe (which even explains the Gorn cameo in a double parallel sort of way! *grin*). All my nitpicks, no longer counted. I could enjoy it for entertainment. I am currently six episodes into my second run through of the series with my wife (her first run through).

Oddly enough, after only recently converting my wife of decades to being a "newbie" Trekkie, even she noticed the problems I had with the series and thanked me for explaining it was a parallel universe.

Myself, as a hard core TOS who saw TOS first run starting in 1968; I had no real issues with Enterprise OR it's oveall continuity, as I has actually watched TOS (as well as the later Star Trek series with the exceptiom of that utter crapfest Star Trek: Voyager which I completely gave up on after The 37's); - and in ENT's 4 seasons, the only "major" continuity violation I could see was the Romulan's already having cloaking technology in Minefield.

Nothing else in the series violated any TOS on screen canon (although lot of 'fanon' was destroyed). I really liked the fact that they went the route they did; and ENT was the first post TOS 'Star Trek' series that I felt REALLY recaptured the original spirit of TOS - as opposed the the 'perfect, always in the right humanity' that was TNG (Yes, DS9 did start to get away from this; but the whole underlying 'perfect, enlightened humanity' context was still there).

I really liked the fact that they DID have character growth (and sorry, inserting a line into an episode that Picard was once an amatuer archeologist, and bringing it up again occasionally AIN'T 'character growth'). Archer did start off as somewhat easy going and naive; and they actually progressed the character from that point. For me, I think the 'turning point' where they had the character 'grow up' a bit was in Regeration when he orders the borgified alien frieghter crewmembers spaced to save his ship. I loved that scene; and from that point forward Scott Bakula did start to play the character a bit differently.

I also LOVED what they did with the Vulcans. They did them well, and it was definitely a race that would grow into the Vulcan society we caught glimpses of in TOS with Amok Time and Journey To Babel. If there was a group of shows that turned the Vulcans into something they weren't (from TOS); it was the 24th century era series.

Was ENT perfect? Hell no; but neither was TOS. In the end though, while I still consider TOS to be #1; ENT is a very close #2; and I do wish we'd have gotten at least one more season (I would have loved to see it get the 'modern series' 7 season standard too).

 

[Pensive]

I am all for destroying fanon.

And as for Archer, it was awesome seeing him in the first two seasons because he had this "ready fire aim" air about him when it came to hands-on exploration. I can't blame him for that because I'd be doing the exact same thing, hell if we got into space right now I'd be practically jumping into the airlock without sealing my EV suit all the way!

I also loved how the Xindi attack hardened him into Airlock Archer (as number6 put it). Of course the 9/11 parallels are there but major tragedies tend to do that to people in general.

As I told folks at the convention, I was so sick of Trek being invincible and all-knowing. It was nice to see the ENT crew do foolish things, get their asses handed to them in battles, and be totally awkward or culturally biased. Also, I like how brains saved them many times when brawn couldn't.