That might say more about you than it does about women gamers.
Sit on a Tube train for five minutes. You will see at least one woman with a Nintendo DS and another playing a game on her phone.
Feminists upset over "Fat Princess" video game
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Sit on a Tube train for five minutes. You will see at least one woman with a Nintendo DS and another playing a game on her phone.
So you'd have no problem with games called:
Kick the Gimp
Nail the Altar Boy
Tease the Spaz
or the like ...
--Ted
You might have a point if the name of the game in question was something like Punch the Fat Princess, which it is not. Unless you consider the descriptor "fat" derogatory on its own?
You mean women can't be reduced to four simple emotions? 
I would buy this.
And not Nail the Alterboy? I guess you're a homophobe then!
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Would that be like a really fucked up version of Viva Pinyata?
Would that be like a really fucked up version of Viva Pinyata?
I'm not sure, I could totally be misconstruing the title, and it could just be a little harmless nailing alterboys to crosses.
The two bloggers who seem to be at the forefront of all this have denounced everyone who disagrees with them as sexist trolls, which undermines their position and reinforces my belief that they're basically frothy gilled idiots.
And that "Shakes" woman who brought "heteronormative" into it - if the game was called Fat Dyke Princess she'd have had a point. It isn't, she doesn't, all of them can piss off.
The gaming industry gets enough flak from retarded politicians, it really doesn't need to be attacked from the inside by overzealous "feminists". It seems for every Germaine Greer, there are at least two Susie Simpletons...
And that "Shakes" woman who brought "heteronormative" into it - if the game was called Fat Dyke Princess she'd have had a point. It isn't, she doesn't, all of them can piss off.
The gaming industry gets enough flak from retarded politicians, it really doesn't need to be attacked from the inside by overzealous "feminists". It seems for every Germaine Greer, there are at least two Susie Simpletons...
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No. "Fat" is just a word. Like any other word, it's how it's used that usually causes reactions from others.
For example if there were games called:
Fat City
Fat Government
Fat Wallet
There would be no reactions at all.
--Ted
The root cause of many of these problems, gaming industries too concerned with money than good games. I mean all sexism aside it looks like a crappy game anyway.
If Monopoly hadn't already been invented you could just have a board/PC game called Fat Wallet were you screw every population on the Earth out of money by controlling various industries.
You have created yet another cliched genre movie, collect $100,000,000
You have doubled heating costs, pension deficit no longer a problem!
So the outrage is sourced from the games name and not its content then?
I seriously am asking here, because I really don't understand. The game does not encourage making fun of overweight people and it does not use any well known stereotypes of overweight people that I can see. The point of the game is actually to protect the Princess from the other team and to recover her when stolen. How is that derogatory? How is the title, which is an accurate description of the focus of the game, derogatory?
Should I be worried that this is the first time I've encountered the completely wonderful term "heteronormative?"
And I live in San Francisco. I feel so out of it!
And I live in San Francisco. I feel so out of it!
It simply isn't. The people getting offended by it are the prejudiced ones.
Chemahkuu said:
What a tedious, old and boring argument. Of course the gaming industry is concerned with money. It needs money. That's how capitalism works.
It doesn't mean there isn't plenty of room for good, innovative titles. Even Electronic Arts - gaming's great boogeyman - puts a lot of money into fresh IPs like Spore, Mirror's Edge and Dead Space.
And, a great number of the tentpole games are bloody good regardless. The three games I was psyched about 2008 for are all sequels, and all pretty destined to make shitloads of cash (GTA4, Fable 2, Fallout 3). The fact that they will each earn their publishers enough money to build a secret lava-moated evil fortress on the dark side of the moon does not detract from their quality.
Tell me, do you only ever buy independently published titles?
What fucking sexism? Seriously, where is it? Is Oblivion sexist because all the women in it are plain, ugly and boring conversationalists? Is Soul Calibur sexist because it's women are scantily clad, have ridiculously unrealistic busts and carry phallic weapons? Does that go for Lara Croft aswell?
Is the gaming industry one big chauvinistic conspiracy or do some people need to lighten the fuck up?
Should I be worried that this is the first time I've encountered the completely wonderful term "heteronormative?"
And I live in San Francisco. I feel so out of it!
There's no reason you should have unless you've study gender and sexuality in some kind of academic setting.
Chicken and egg. Most of the top tier designers are men, both in Japan and in the US.
If women can't write men (and hey, if Jane Austen admitted it, I'll take her word for it) then men probably can't write women... which is why the number of female characters designed by men who aren't male fantasy fetish dolls is limited to Alyx from Half Life and Jade from Beyond Good and Evil.