I still don't really understand the purpose of the "Sombreroprise."
Simple: to be [highlight]AWESOME[/highlight].
And make Abrams cry in shame. We have to have that.
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Simple: to be [highlight]AWESOME[/highlight].
And make Abrams cry in shame. We have to have that.
Ah, so this is basically a way to protest the stupid and unnecessary canon changes Abrams has made for no reason other than to attract "new fans?" I can get on that!!And make Abrams cry in shame. We have to have that.
Ah, so this is basically a way to protest the stupid and unnecessary canon changes Abrams has made for no reason other than to attract "new fans?" I can get on that!!
...if that's what you want to believe...
*innocent whistling*
Well, I'd like to believe the truth...so if you wouldn't mind clarifying instead of confusing the issue... 
So it's really just a mockery of the very idea that Abrams should adhere to canon, eh? I'll bet you people would sing a different tune if it was your precious TNG/DS9/VGR Abrams was fucking up.
More a mockery of the idea that every single poster here has an idea of what "canon" Abrams should include in his film, and you can barely find two people who's opinions on the matter line up.
He'll never be able to please everyone, so we might as well have some fun.
Eh. I doubt it. I adore TNG, having grown up on the show, but it's got its own share of goofy '80s touches. If someone wants to come along and redo all that, I'd give them a fair shot. Sure the changes could be for the worst, but they could be for the better, too.
It called "fun". Everyone is just being silly. Relax.
Funny, people never seemed to have a dispute over TOS canon for the 40 years Trek has been around. The only real "canon debate" that fans can't agree on is whether or not "Enterprise" should be added to the Trek continuity.More a mockery of the idea that every single poster here has an idea of what "canon" Abrams should include in his film, and you can barely find two people who's opinions on the matter line up.
He'll never be able to please everyone, so we might as well have some fun.
There's only so far you can change something before it becomes a totally different entity. I think Abrams should keep that in mind.
And the degree of that change before it becomes a different entity is different for each person, which was my point. What you see as violating the Trek spirit I and Sam and plenty of others see as interesting cosmetic surgery.
So relax and have fun. We've got PEZ!
Sorry, I just get really tired of people making fun of my show and my beliefs in the show. After years of putting up with it, my tolerance wears thin...VERY thin...
And the degree of that change before it becomes a different entity is different for each person, which was my point. What you see as violating the Trek spirit I and Sam and plenty of others see as interesting cosmetic surgery.
So relax and have fun. We've got PEZ!
I just don't see why they can't make a straight-up TOS movie. Would it kill them? There wouldn't be any "canon disputes" because it would stick to canon, and the only complaints would be from those people who want to see a "different version" for some reason (not like we haven't seen plenty of "different versions" by now). I don't want ANOTHER regurgitated "reimagining," I want to see Star Trek in the form I grew to know and love, dammit! I'm sick and tired of being left out in the rain as a TOS fan, and now they finally make another TOS movie and it's still as much of a fuck up as the TMP+ shitfests!!
I hope you understand where I'm coming from, as well as my feelings on the matter. I'm tired of people making a joke out of it, whether it comes from non-fans or fans alike.
*accepts PEZ and shares the drink*
EDIT: Sorry if I went a little mental there, I was a bit upset about some other things and just needed a drink...god I sound like an emo bitch.
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Oh, I don't think that was ever the case.
Hey, some of us here started watching when TOS was the only Star Trek and there were still new episodes on television every week. We also remember that TOS was not above having a little fun at its own expense and that it is possible to poke fun at something and like it a lot at the same time.Sorry, I just get really tired of people making fun of my show and my beliefs in the show. After years of putting up with it, my tolerance wears thin...VERY thin...
I just don't see why they can't make a straight-up TOS movie. Would it kill them? There wouldn't be any "canon disputes" because it would stick to canon, and the only complaints would be from those people who want to see a "different version" for some reason (not like we haven't seen plenty of "different versions" by now). I don't want ANOTHER regurgitated "reimagining," I want to see Star Trek in the form I grew to know and love, dammit! I'm sick and tired of being left out in the rain as a TOS fan, and now they finally make another TOS movie and it's still as much of a fuck up as the TMP+ shitfests!!
I hope you understand where I'm coming from, as well as my feelings on the matter. I'm tired of people making a joke out of it, whether it comes from non-fans or fans alike.
In the interim, there have come to be those (not just TOS fans, mind you) who take every little detail so bloodymindedly seriously -- to the extent of reading the riot act because Wingnut 111.47 is the wrong color!! -- that it tends to take some of the fun out of things for the rest of us.
We're still TOS fans here -- well, a lot of us are -- and we realize that it simply is neither possible nor practical to have exactly the same thing as what we saw on the television episodes of forty years ago. What we do have is someone who genuinely appears to be interested in making the best movie he can -- right now -- with those characters in that universe. We think he should do just that, and are very interested in seeing how he does with it.
All this thread is is an attempt to have a little fun with the perception of "the way things should be". We seem to have succeeded admirably. Will everyone find it as amusing as we have? Probably not, but it isn't intended as any sort of mean-spirited slap; it's just fun, and we hope, but don't expect, that others will like it too.
That's the deal here.
PEZ and a drink -- that's a start. Try reading through some of the thread and see how things developed. It may be irreverent at times, but I don't think you'll find it at all disrespectful. If it strikes you to smile or chuckle at something you see... go ahead -- that's what it's for.*accepts PEZ and shares the drink*
EDIT: Sorry if I went a little mental there, I was a bit upset about some other things and just needed a drink...god I sound like an emo bitch.
What do you mean never had a dispute over TOS canon? Even TOS managed to contradict its own canon during its run. Oh and believe me if 40 years from now some talented director wanted to make a movie about DS9, I'd be thrilled, and more concerned about the quality of the script and actors than I would be about most cosmetic changes.
Not to be a buzz-kill, but I had to change my Avatar earlier this week. Something, slightly, more important came up. What can I say, I can be quite fickle with my affections.
Very Well Done!
However, can we change our avatars now? This is getting ridiculous!
I just wish I could ADD an avatar!! For goodness sakes, how long does it take to make 50 posts?!? And I don't even have a post count meter that tells me how many posts I've made!!
<<< Click on your name in one of your posts to see how many you've made. Alternatively, go to the menu bar at the top of the page. Select Quick Links and then My Profile.
Thanks a lot!! Only four more posts to go...actually, only three since I've made this one!!
M'Sharak, have I told you lately that I love you?
This thread has made me laugh so hard I'm crying. It's just pure awesomeness all around. 
Sorry, I just get really tired of people making fun of my show and my beliefs in the show. After years of putting up with it, my tolerance wears thin...VERY thin...
And the degree of that change before it becomes a different entity is different for each person, which was my point. What you see as violating the Trek spirit I and Sam and plenty of others see as interesting cosmetic surgery.
So relax and have fun. We've got PEZ!
I just don't see why they can't make a straight-up TOS movie. Would it kill them? There wouldn't be any "canon disputes" because it would stick to canon, and the only complaints would be from those people who want to see a "different version" for some reason (not like we haven't seen plenty of "different versions" by now). I don't want ANOTHER regurgitated "reimagining," I want to see Star Trek in the form I grew to know and love, dammit! I'm sick and tired of being left out in the rain as a TOS fan, and now they finally make another TOS movie and it's still as much of a fuck up as the TMP+ shitfests!!
I hope you understand where I'm coming from, as well as my feelings on the matter. I'm tired of people making a joke out of it, whether it comes from non-fans or fans alike.
*accepts PEZ and shares the drink*
EDIT: Sorry if I went a little mental there, I was a bit upset about some other things and just needed a drink...god I sound like an emo bitch.
Look...what you'll find on this board, for the most part, is a very healthy respect for TOS. I know very few people on this board who dislike that show. Some of the younger kids may not have seen much of it because they can't get past the look of it - especially when it comes to 60's costumes & makeup and special effects. But even those folks, by in large, appreciate the original Enterprise crew and are very grateful for the show, because they know that without that show, the show(s) they like best would not have happened. There might be a bit more controversy when it comes to some of the TOS actors...but the show itself is respected here by pretty much everyone.
Now...I'm not gonna tell you that you'll never see a joke involving TOS, because that wouldn't be true. However, this is not a mean-spirited sort of joking, but much more of a internet-BBS-fun kind of joking. This thread is a perfect example of that. No one in this thread intended any ill-will toward TOS. They were just having fun.
Frankly, on this board, we have alot more trouble with people who are too rigid than people who are too relaxed. And I say this specifically to you, because your comments in this thread, combined with your username and avatar, as a newbie supposedly still on best behavior, have me a bit worried, frankly, as to the direction this is going. If you show up here and within 50 posts are being hostile and judgmental to people who like other shows or are trying to be positive about the movie...well, let's just say that normally gets on the staff's radar pretty quickly. We have had more than a few 'Show X Only' fans here who have done very well and gotten along great. But we have also had those who have gotten themselves in ALOT of trouble through running around upsetting other forums through making claims that only Show X is a good show, and all others are not even Trek, etc.. Comments like that do not go over well, and, from the staff's POV, are far more likely to end you in hot water than is participation in an obviously silly thread such as this one. In short, a certain amount of diplomacy and a sense of humor are key to a long and enjoyable stay at TrekBBS.
No one has any objections to you liking only TOS...but my advice to you, in terms of this board, is a) to relax when it comes to silly fun-making that is not intended to troll anyone, but is just for laughs (like this thread)...and b) to make sure and extend the respect to members of other fangroups that you yourself expect as a TOS fan. In short, if it would piss you off for someone else to say it to you about TOS, then it might not be a good idea to say it to some other fan about TNG, DS9, VOY or ENT. Or about this movie.
That's not to say criticism is frowned upon, because it's not. Most people who are at all objective have certain criticisms of ALL the shows, because no show is perfect. However, there is a difference between legitimate criticism and trolling. And if you check the board rules and FAQ, those might give you an idea of what is acceptable. This might help you, at this point in your TrekBBS career, in two ways - a) You will know what sort of behavior to expect from others...and b) You will have a better idea of how to regulate your own behavior so that this place will be a positive experience for you.
Take some time, read the board, and get a feel for the place. This particular forum is often more controversial than most...but the TOS forum and General Trek Discussion are much less controversial and are a good place to get to know posters in a more personal setting so that you can appreciate their intentions better when you read their comments elsewhere.
Relax, have some fun, and don't take things too seriously - remembering that this is, after all, only an internet message board - and you'll be fine.
Good luck!
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