Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

[The Wormhole]

There's a good chance this new film doesn't do well.

At this point, there's a good chance the film might not even get made, so why get hung up on hypotheticals?

 

[F. King Daniel]

It didn't help that Paramount kept trying to screw the cast on their contracts after Beyond came out. I think the reason a fourth movie fell apart so quickly the first time was the studio wasn't willing to pay the actors what they'd already agreed to.

After reading the plot synopsis, George Kirk is found the the Kelvin's pattern buffer after a last-second beam out, I think we dodged a bullet. It undermines the whole sacrifice at the start of the first film.

I'm more curious about the "Romulans find a doomsday machine" pitch. Or the Tarantino Pulp Fiction on the TOS gangster planet with Pine, Shatner and Stewart in intertwining stories one.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Exclusive: New 'Star Trek' Movie Writers Tease "Dark" Story And New Franchise

John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein's in-progress Star Trek film is a very big swing. Here's what they've revealed so far.

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“I would say it's really kind of a look at the institution of Starfleet and any institution as a whole that has existed for a long time and what that does,” Daley tells Inverse. “ I think the portrayal of Starfleet and the people that work within it have always been generally idealized versions of what the future could be. And while this [script] isn’t a cynical or nihilistic take on it, I think it does acknowledge that there are some bad apples in every institution that can have a strong voice and can really make an impact on that institution and everything it stands for.”

“Two movies we cite as comps for what we’re hoping to do are Training Day and Crimson Tide,” Goldstein tells Inverse.

“It takes place almost in real time, and it just is a whole other look at what a Star Trek movie could be without betraying the fundamentals of what it should be,” Daley adds.

Fans of the excellent film Crimson Tide will probably remember that, interestingly, that film has more than one reference to the original Star Trek.

 

[F. King Daniel]

So... another Evil Admiral?

 

[Catboots]

So we have this Sci-Fi franchise called Star Trek, which has aliens and time travel and spaceships and other dimensions and shit ... which is why we're making a dark film about bad humans being bad and doing bad things. Because, y'know, Star Trek. Sci-Fi. Trust us, it'll be great.

 

[fireproof78]

So we have this Sci-Fi franchise called Star Trek, which has aliens and time travel and spaceships and other dimensions and shit ... which is why we're making a dark film about bad humans being bad and doing bad things. Because, y'know, Star Trek. Sci-Fi. Trust us, it'll be great.

TUC is still fantastic so not sure the issue.

"We are killers but we're not going to kill today."

 

[Catboots]

TUC is still fantastic so not sure the issue.

"We are killers but we're not going to kill today."

At least TUC was also about klingons not wanting peace. Villains trying to sabotage a peace treaty between humans (well the Federation) and klingons is at least a decent sci-fi storyline. Certainly more so than yet another case of Section 31 doing bad stuff or Starfleet having yet another Evil (and of course human) Admiral.

If this new Trek film gets made and the "bad apples" aren't just humans then I'll take it back. But I'm not holding my breath.

 

[fireproof78]

At least TUC was also about klingons not wanting peace. Villains trying to sabotage a peace treaty between humans (well the Federation) and klingons is at least a decent sci-fi storyline. Certainly more so than yet another case of Section 31 doing bad stuff or Starfleet having yet another Evil (and of course human) Admiral.

If this new Trek film gets made and the "bad apples" aren't just humans then I'll take it back. But I'm not holding my breath.

Why not?

Humans are capable of great good and great evil. We see it with Decker, Tracey, Kirk (TMP), Kennelly, Jameson, Ross, Cartwright, Maxwell, among others.

Sci-fi is a reflection of the times it's in. There's a lot of mistrust in leadership right now.

 

[eschaton]

Even if you consider the period where Gene's utopian vision was at its highest (early TNG) "badmirals" were all over the place.

The optimism at the heart of Trek isn't "The system always works!" It's just that the future will be better than the present.

The balance that Trek needs to strike is showing the Federation to be flawed, and yet, better than what we're used to. I do think that modern Trek has struggled here a bit - having a hard time with the post-capitalist world of the Federation, and then alternatively dropping into Starfleet hagiography. But none of it's been a betrayal of what came before.

 

[FredH]

I mean… it’s fine, but we’ve been here rather a number of times by now, haven’t we?

 

[StarCruiser]

Yeah - if this is their "NEW" idea...it's not very new. It's actually a bit stale now.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

The only thing new about it might be which specific people and events it's paralleling.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm at least moderately curious as to what the execution and characters would be.

But, I also doubt it will get done.

 

[FredH]

Meanwhile, while the feel and style of it was very different, Project Hail Mary had an essentially Trek ethos — and surprisingly, made a lot of money, with not a battle nor a villain in sight.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Yikes!

 

[BillJ]

It sounds like a snore fest.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Can someone get these guys a dictionary so they can look up what the word subverting actually means

 

[Campe]

I prefer my dadmirals over my badmirals. Thanks.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

I prefer my dadmirals over my badmirals. Thanks.

Like Dadmiral Vance?

 

[Campe]

Like Dadmiral Vance?

Love Dadmiral Vance.