The original 2008 teaser is amazing. Still one of my favorite Trek teaser trailers of all time.
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Released on January 19, 2008. Barely two and a half years after ENT aired its finale.
Released on January 19, 2008. Barely two and a half years after ENT aired its finale.
That's not science, it's bullshit.
Yep. It's pure fantasy. It makes as much sense as anything in The Lord of the Rings. It may enhance the internal consistency of the fiction, but it has no correspondence with anything in the real world. Also, how much it enhances the fiction, and in what way, is very much up to the individual.
You know the answer to that.
"But he was born four years before Prime Chekov. That makes no sense."
Welcome to history changing after 2233. It doesn't have to make sense to, well, make sense.
Welcome to history changing after 2233. It doesn't have to make sense to, well, make sense.
It makes sense just fine.
And some of us hated her in all three seasons.
I have nothing against the actress it's all the way the character was written.
This is nonsense at best...a useful distraction at worst. Dalton's Bond appreciating a calm moment with Kara is not the same as Bond discussing his feelings during a shootout with mooks, a chase, the setting of a trap, et cetera (what Captain Janeway might call "crunch time"). TNG - for instance - had its moments where characters conversed about deep topics, but those occurred at the appropriate time (e.g., Deanna counseling Worf in "The Bonding"); on the bridge, during a crisis, Picard's crew were professionals.
As for what audiences want? I find it more believable that this attitude of imposing your issues on others during wholly inappropriate moments is being pushed by writers of a certain stripe.
Well, one cannot get around the fact that the current ST-PTB's failure was the result of their choices (as posed to heretofore unknown external factors) which torpedoed the franchise as a product with new content, yet why would anyone jump to the hypothesis that an alternative would fail just the same? This goes back to starting at the heart of the matter--at the how and why of the Kurtzman era, and its decisions, which are unique to itself.
Why would one would assume any other show/franchise-runner would make so many wrongheaded decisions in their approach to ST without some sort of justification? That would be the equivalent of saying just because Pilot A took a course which resulted in a crash must mean Pilot B would chart a similar course leading to similar results. Obviously, no two individuals--or group approach anything the same, or in a way leading to a similarly disastrous outcome, so there's no point is playing the "others would screw it up, too" game.
For anyone to consistently avoid analyzing Kurtzman and Company's self-motivated decisions and why the viewing public rejected it stems from a form of hyper-defensive fanaticism that explains--in part--why the franchise's problems continued unabated. ...and where does that leave the Star Trek franchise now?
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Star Trek boss Alex Kurtzman talking about how he never watched Star Trek:• At an April 2008 Paramount “Star Trek” junket, Kurtzman said he’d never sat through a full episode before being hired. “I was not a fan. I had watched maybe two or three episodes years ago—and they weren’t really my thing. Then JJ and Bob [Orci] asked me to help, and I thought, ‘I’d better go back and binge this, or I’ll look like an idiot.’” (Entertainment Weekly, April 2008 press junket)•
THEY WEREN'T REALLY MY THING??
In an MTV News feature from May 2008, he again confessed, “You know, I’m a Spider-Man guy, so I grew up with comics, not sci-fi TV. When they handed me Star Trek, I honestly had to do a crash-course: watch the original series in two weeks, read some reference books—just so I didn’t butcher the lore.” (MTV News, May 2008)•
Consider it butchered.
At the San Diego Comic-Con “Star Trek” panel in July 2008, during a writers’ roundtable, Kurtzman quipped, “It’s a weird feeling showing up in the writers’ room and everyone’s speaking Klingon and quoting Roddenberry—you realize you’ve got some homework. I basically learned Trek the way you learn a foreign language in college: all-nighters and flash cards.” (SDCC, July 2008 transcript)
I would have begun booing and throwing stuff
I blame Paramount. They hired him instead of someone who knew his shite. Fuck them, and Kurtzman too.
THEY WEREN'T REALLY MY THING??
In an MTV News feature from May 2008, he again confessed, “You know, I’m a Spider-Man guy, so I grew up with comics, not sci-fi TV. When they handed me Star Trek, I honestly had to do a crash-course: watch the original series in two weeks, read some reference books—just so I didn’t butcher the lore.” (MTV News, May 2008)•
Consider it butchered.
At the San Diego Comic-Con “Star Trek” panel in July 2008, during a writers’ roundtable, Kurtzman quipped, “It’s a weird feeling showing up in the writers’ room and everyone’s speaking Klingon and quoting Roddenberry—you realize you’ve got some homework. I basically learned Trek the way you learn a foreign language in college: all-nighters and flash cards.” (SDCC, July 2008 transcript)
I would have begun booing and throwing stuff
I blame Paramount. They hired him instead of someone who knew his shite. Fuck them, and Kurtzman too.
That will teach them!
Fuck them! That will erase this era!
Fuck them! That will erase this era!
Nicholas Meyer never watched Star Trek either. Neither did Brannon Braga, and I think Kurtzman got Star Trek better than Braga ever did.Star Trek boss Alex Kurtzman talking about how he never watched Star Trek:• At an April 2008 Paramount “Star Trek” junket, Kurtzman said he’d never sat through a full episode before being hired. “I was not a fan. I had watched maybe two or three episodes years ago—and they weren’t really my thing. Then JJ and Bob [Orci] asked me to help, and I thought, ‘I’d better go back and binge this, or I’ll look like an idiot.’” (Entertainment Weekly, April 2008 press junket)•
THEY WEREN'T REALLY MY THING??
In an MTV News feature from May 2008, he again confessed, “You know, I’m a Spider-Man guy, so I grew up with comics, not sci-fi TV. When they handed me Star Trek, I honestly had to do a crash-course: watch the original series in two weeks, read some reference books—just so I didn’t butcher the lore.” (MTV News, May 2008)•
Consider it butchered.
At the San Diego Comic-Con “Star Trek” panel in July 2008, during a writers’ roundtable, Kurtzman quipped, “It’s a weird feeling showing up in the writers’ room and everyone’s speaking Klingon and quoting Roddenberry—you realize you’ve got some homework. I basically learned Trek the way you learn a foreign language in college: all-nighters and flash cards.” (SDCC, July 2008 transcript)
I would have begun booing and throwing stuff
I blame Paramount. They hired him instead of someone who knew his shite. Fuck them, and Kurtzman too.
I said this in another thread, but I personally wouldn't wish running Star Trek on my worse enemy. It's an impossible task because you have to be a fan but only the right kind of fan and associate with the right kind of people as fans while appealing to current and new fans.
Yeah that doesn't surprise me about Kurtzman, he always did sound like he was basically reading from a brief that someone had given him about what Star Trek is "meant" to be.
I wonder how hands-on he's been creatively with the shows.
I wonder how hands-on he's been creatively with the shows.
What is Star Trek all about?
According to Kurtzman, it's a "mirror" to contemporary social/political issues, a phrase he used in pre-release interviews for SFA.
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