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Spoilers Maul - Shadow Lord Animated Series

Stephen! said:
Vader doesn't speak. Perhaps because of the SAG-AFTRA backlash last year, regarding the recreated Vader voice in Fortnite
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They've used other voice actors as Vader in games and stuff before, so I have a feeling it was more of a creative choice than anything like that.
Tuskin38 said:
What was really weird, is that they didn't get Paul Bettany to voice Dryden Vos. Who they got wasn't a good soundalike
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Yeah, that surprised me. I wonder why he didn't do this?, he did voice Vision and Jarvis in What If? so he's not totally against voicing animated version of his live action characters on TV.

I was pretty shocked by the body count in this one, I was pretty much expecting Master Daki to die so his death was not a surprised, but Spybot, Lawson, and the Mandos and Nightbrothers were a big surprise. I'm especially sad to see Lawson and Spybot go, they were of my favorite characters.
Even though I was expecting Master Daki to die, the way Maul used him to get away from Vader was pretty messed up, It's totally within his character to that, but it's stilled messed up.
The big action scenes with the Inquisitors and the Vader were awesome, some of the best we've ever gotten in animated Star Wars.
 
These were great episodes.

Just as a "by the way", this experience has made me turn off the discover feed customization on my new tab page, since the very first link today fed to me was a blatant spoiler. This is why we can't have good things, as the saying goes.
 
JD said:
They've used other voice actors as Vader in games and stuff before, so I have a feeling it was more of a creative choice than anything like that.

Yeah, that surprised me. I wonder why he didn't do this?, he did voice Vision and Jarvis in What If? so he's not totally against voicing animated version of his live action characters on TV.

I was pretty shocked by the body count in this one, I was pretty much expecting Master Daki to die so his death was not a surprised, but Spybot, Lawson, and the Mandos and Nightbrothers were a big surprise. I'm especially sad to see Lawson and Spybot go, they were of my favorite characters.
Even though I was expecting Master Daki to die, the way Maul used him to get away from Vader was pretty messed up, It's totally within his character to that, but it's stilled messed up.
The big action scenes with the Inquisitors and the Vader were awesome, some of the best we've ever gotten in animated Star Wars.
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I don't think Lawson is dead. We never saw the body. Plus, Lawson saw what happened to Master Daki so I can see him coming back to tell Devon what happened, which will make her turn against Maul. Plus, with the actor just coming off an Academy Award nomination, I could see Disney wanting to keep him as part of the franchise.
 
Maul didn't betray them?

I mean he skipped out on Daki, but that's probably because he was wounded, and Devon was in trouble, so that's hardly being underhanded, since beating Vader seemed all but impossible.
 
Good series ( really good!) but the end epiosde while exciting, was a slight let down. Maul wasn't at his best with is robolegs being damaged, so didn't get as good a fight as I was hoping. Was hoping for Ahsoka/Maul level from the last season of Clone Wars, and EPIC fight. But maybe next time.

Lawson is alive, when they don't "Show the Body" it leaves it open.

Paul didn't voice Vos? Sounded JUST like him.. owell.
 
Lawson's and Daki's fates should've been swapped. Lawson should've gotten the clear death, while Daki gets taken alive for Inquisitor conversion. That would really break Darth Tal--, I mean, Devon.
 
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I do feel a little more comfortable about next season after hearing Dave Filoni's take on the story on the characters.
 
Yistaan said:
Lawson's and Daki's fates should've been swapped. Lawson should've gotten the clear death, while Daki gets taken alive for Inquisitor conversion. That would really break Darth Tal--, I mean, Devon.
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Why? Do we want to assassinate Daki's character as well as, um, the character? Where's the flaw in his character that makes him susceptible to breaking under torture? When the process of torturing to turn non-voluntary Inquisitor prospects to the dark side fails, the subjects are killed. That would be Daki's fate. So, why should Vader even bother?

Or are we reducing Devon's vulnerability to Maul's influence to her having been trained by a master with some latent dark tendencies? Where's Devon's agency then?
 
CorporalCaptain said:
Why? Do we want to assassinate Daki's character as well as, um, the character? Where's the flaw in his character that makes him susceptible to breaking under torture? When the process of torturing to turn non-voluntary Inquisitor prospects to the dark side fails, the subjects are killed. That would be Daki's fate. So, why should Vader even bother?

Or are we reducing Devon's vulnerability to Maul's influence to her having been trained by a master with some latent dark tendencies? Where's Devon's agency then?
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If Daki doesn't break under torture, Vader can still parade Daki around in a vegetative state (what he'll probably be reduced to after the torture if he doesn't convert to an Inquisitor) which would have a similar effect on breaking Devon.

Rebels implies that some sort of vegetative state ended up happening to Luminara, considering how meekly she walked into her execution tomb in the archival holorecord used to lure Kanan and Ezra.

In Legends, Vader tortured Tay Vanis into a brain damaged vegetable and left him alive in that state as a message to other Rebels: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tay_Vanis . So SW has gone that path before.
 
valkyrie013 said:
Lawson is alive, when they don't "Show the Body" it leaves it open.
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And it wasn't a coincidence that he was the only person who saw Maul betray Daki.

So, how do we think that battle versus Vader would have went if Maul hadn't sacrificed Daki? Could they have defeated him? Or would Vader have killed them and then taken out Devin and everyone else?
 
Yistaan said:
If Daki doesn't break under torture, Vader can still parade Daki around in a vegetative state (what he'll probably be reduced to after the torture if he doesn't convert to an Inquisitor) which would have a similar effect on breaking Devon.
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Increasing the likelihood of her turning to the dark side? No.
 
One problem they will face is if they decide to follow the boy and Two Boots to the mother, since she appears to be some sort of bureaucrat on Coruscant, a place Maul would certainly not want to go. Now if they kind of drop those two off from the show, just follow Maul and Devon's journey through the underground, Crimson Dawn and all that, it might be fine. Not sure why Maul would put up with keeping the boy and a law droid with him as a moral counterpoint for Devon
 
Could mom work for Inquisitor Central? Could she even be an Inquisitor? (I'm not saying she is, I'm just spitballing.)

Ithekro said:
One problem they will face is if they decide to follow the boy and Two Boots to the mother, since she appears to be some sort of bureaucrat on Coruscant, a place Maul would certainly not want to go. Now if they kind of drop those two off from the show, just follow Maul and Devon's journey through the underground, Crimson Dawn and all that, it might be fine. Not sure why Maul would put up with keeping the boy and a law droid with him as a moral counterpoint for Devon
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More to my point, with mom in the Empire, I'm not sure how Rylee is necessarily a moral counterpoint for Devon.

Devon could actually be drawn in three different directions, two evil: towards Maul, back towards the good side to honor Daki's teachings, and towards Sidious.

The same goes for Rylee, ultimately. One might think he could get pulled in only two directions, to dad's side of law and good, or to mom's side of whatever it is she actually stands for, that presumably we're going to find out more about. But he could reject both, seeing dad's as futile idealism and mom's as corrupt and evil, and opt for a third side with Maul.

There's also the possibility a fourth side available for both Devon and Rylee with Captain Lawson's contact Rheena Sul, who seems to have gotten away.

Honestly, we know very little about the moral compass of most of these characters.
 
Yistaan said:
Lawson's and Daki's fates should've been swapped. Lawson should've gotten the clear death, while Daki gets taken alive for Inquisitor conversion. That would really break Darth Tal--, I mean, Devon.
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It pains me to say this because Daki was a really cool guy, but he had to die. Were he captured alive by Vader or the Inquisitors, Devon could presumably still sense him through the Force, and thus would not be as driven to turn to the Dark Side and work with Maul as she is now knowing Daki is definitively dead.
 
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