Trek's future according to Paramount's new owners...

[Starflight]

Only because Usenet wasn't that populated in 1987. TNG was NOT well liked by fans; and DS9 in 1993 was worse.

On that note I stumbled across Google's usenet archive the other day while looking for old Magic: the Gathering talk, and checked out rec.arts.startrek. First post I came across from around 1990 was someone saying "people here are stuck in the past and just find anything to complain about with TNG". Made me laugh since you could swap "TNG" for "SFA", post it here, and nobody would notice it was written 36 years ago.

Archive is here if anyone wants to check it out for a laugh; you can filter by date range at the top to see posts made when TNG/DS9 launched.

 

[Noname Given]

On that note I stumbled across Google's usenet archive the other day while looking for old Magic: the Gathering talk, and checked out rec.arts.startrek. First post I came across from around 1990 was someone saying "people here are stuck in the past and just find anything to complain about with TNG". Made me laugh since you could swap "TNG" for "SFA", post it here, and nobody would notice it was written 36 years ago.

Archive is here if anyone wants to check it out for a laugh; you can filter by date range at the top to see posts made when TNG/DS9 launched.

There was also:

net.startrek (one of the earliest groups circa 1982)
alt.startrek
rec.arts.startrek.fandom
rec.arts.startrek.info

(Yes, I have an old archive of text files and I posted to all those groups for many years.)

 

[fireproof78]

Only because Usenet wasn't that populated in 1987. TNG was NOT well liked by fans; and DS9 in 1993 was worse.

Usenet at the time was awash with negativity (I know I posted a lot of it WRT TNG in 1987.)

It was a different time, and even in letter columns the editors chose a equal smattering of 'Good' VS 'Bad' and only they knew which 'side' sent more letters, but they tried (most times) to print 'both sides'.

With social media and the Internet as it exists today - every idiot has an effective Bullhorn to the world.

Negativity has always existed.

You just now have to choose to ignore it.

 

[Mudd]

Any time you look at reviews of anything you ought to bear in mind that people who are dissatisfied with a product/service/experience/event are more likely to take the time to express themselves online.

 

[Ovation]

Any time you look at reviews of anything you ought to bear in mind that people who are dissatisfied with a product/service/experience/event are more likely to take the time to express themselves online.

A sales training course I took last century (late 90s —needed to supplement income while in grad school and part time teaching) referenced a few studies that showed, on average, people who liked an experience typically told 3 other people, while those who didn’t like an experience told 11 other people. I doubt much has changed in the interim.

 

[fireproof78]

A sales training course I took last century (late 90s —needed to supplement income while in grad school and part time teaching) referenced a few studies that showed, on average, people who liked an experience typically told 3 other people, while those who didn’t like an experience told 11 other people. I doubt much has changed in the interim.

This was still taught when I did sales in the 2000s, and what is emphasized by current businesses.

 

[Dukhat]

Any time you look at reviews of anything you ought to bear in mind that people who are dissatisfied with a product/service/experience/event are more likely to take the time to express themselves online.

That's why I always look for the negative reviews for a product I intend to buy on Amazon or a service I intend to hire people for.

 

[oktay]

Son of Star Trek Creator Is Convinced Paramount's New Owners Will Actually Make the Franchise Better (Exclusive)

The Star Trek team seems to feel as though the franchise is in good hands at Paramount.

thedirect.com

 

[Nerys Myk]

Son of Star Trek Creator Is Convinced Paramount's New Owners Will Actually Make the Franchise Better (Exclusive)

The Star Trek team seems to feel as though the franchise is in good hands at Paramount.

thedirect.com

Nepo-baby says what?

 

[tharpdevenport]

What's up with that weird photo in the article?

Looks like odd looking playing cards with the main TNG cast and then suddenly next to Picard is movie-era Kirk -- with a flipped image.

 

[F. King Daniel]

What's up with that weird photo in the article?

Looks like odd looking playing cards with the main TNG cast and then suddenly next to Picard is movie-era Kirk -- with a flipped image.

I'm just glad it isn't AI

 

[Dukhat]

Nepo-baby says what?

Rod is actually a pretty great guy when you get to know him.

 

[Mudd]

So, they didn't talk to anyone who does anything more than cash checks in exchange for their imprimatur?

 

[tharpdevenport]

Rod is actually a pretty great guy when you get to know him.

I don't think 99.9997% of us will ever be able to do this...

 

[johnjm22]

It's hard to imagine Star Trek not getting better, because it can't get much worse than it's been recently.

This change in ownership is likely a good thing.

I'm so over Kurtzman's "Mcdonald's Trek".

 

[Firebird]

It's hard to imagine Star Trek not getting better, because it can't get much worse than it's been recently.

This change in ownership is likely a good thing.

I'm so over Kurtzman's "Mcdonald's Trek".

Not really, but thanks for playing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's hard to imagine Star Trek not getting better, because it can't get much worse than it's been recently.

This change in ownership is likely a good thing.

I'm so over Kurtzman's "Mcdonald's Trek".

I’m sure that sounded clever in your head.

 

[Starflight]

Laughed at Rod's "things will get better... not that they're bad!" framing, especially since his definition of "better" is having "something good to watch".

Regardless of the subjective quality of recent shows, it would be fascinating to know what the mood is behind the scenes right now - SFA doesn't seem to be going beyond two seasons, SNW is over with its truncated fifth season, and Year One doesn't seem entirely likely to get greenlit. Maybe some vague analogues with the final days of the Berman era.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Son of Star Trek Creator Is Convinced Paramount's New Owners Will Actually Make the Franchise Better (Exclusive)

The Star Trek team seems to feel as though the franchise is in good hands at Paramount.

thedirect.com

i have this feeling that the trumpers at paramount are gonna change the star trek universe in many ways

 

[johnjm22]

i have this feeling that the trumpers at paramount are gonna change the star trek universe in many ways

Captain Trump of the USS Ivanka demands a 20% tariff and on Vulcan and claims "it doesn't really work as a planet."