I would go with the episodes with the animated scenes because, AFAIK, that's the only one that has Tom Baker's involvement.I've been thinking about getting Shada once I reach that point in the series, and I was wondering which you guys would recommend, the book or the episodes with the animation to fill in the unfinished parts?
I would go with the episodes with the animated scenes because, AFAIK, that's the only one that has Tom Baker's involvement.
^^^This 100%.I would go with the episodes with the animated scenes because, AFAIK, that's the only one that has Tom Baker's involvement.
The script was frequently rewritten {Hayles, Tosh, Davies). A letter says that the whole point was lost and the story should have been dropped.One of at least two. I used to have the 1992 VHS release that had the existing portions of "Shada" bridged with Tom Baker narrating what happened in the missing portions.
Speaking of animations, I just watched the first episode of the animated "The Celestial Toymaker" reconstruction, the one with the idiosyncratic 3D animation style. It's a bizarre mix of well-done elements and terribly done elements. The surreal reinterpretation of the visuals is creative, and the shot compositions are often well-done, but the character designs are hideous and the computer animation is at early-1990s levels of stiffness and crudeness. In some scenes, like the Doctor's exchange with the Toymaker, the character animation (i.e. body language and movement) is nicely subtle, natural, and expressive despite the limitations of the character models, but in other scenes, the character movement is really crude and jerky (and Steven has his head tilted back almost constantly for some reason). I can't understand why the animation is so technically bad, decades behind the state of the art.
As for the story itself, it's pretty weak, random, and dull. I don't think I liked it much when I watched the still-photo reconstruction and the surviving episode. The main appeal is Michael Gough, but it's not as effective when we only have his voice and can't see the menacing expressions he did so well.
Incidentally, I recently saw Gough as the villain in an episode of the 1954-5 Sherlock Holmes TV series that's streaming on Tubi, "The Case of the Perfect Husband," where he played a coolly sadistic psychopath and was one of the show's most effective and scary guest villains (also one of the show's only guest actors that I recognized on sight, the other being Natalie Schafer). I can see why Doctor Who cast him to play an all-powerful archvillain, although I think I would've preferred to see him in a better serial than this one.
The live action / animated release by far. Unless you want to go with the Paul McGann audio / webcast? I first experienced it via the Paul McGann version on audio. While I thought that was good, I do think the live action / animated Tom Baker version is the best, though.I've been thinking about getting Shada once I reach that point in the series, and I was wondering which you guys would recommend, the book or the episodes with the animation to fill in the unfinished parts?
The live action / animated release by far. Unless you want to go with the Paul McGann audio / webcast? I first experienced it via the Paul McGann version on audio. While I thought that was good, I do think the live action / animated Tom Baker version is the best, though.
Definitely. There was that bit with the Doctor riding around on a tricycle (?), which seemed a little OTT even for Baker, let alone McGann.The McGann version was an interesting idea, but it didn't really work for me because the Doctor still talked and acted like Tom Baker, so I couldn't quite buy it as an Eighth Doctor story.
I enjoyed the Celestial Toymaker, but I suspect only because the animation's visuals made it far more surreal and interesting than the live-action must've been, judging from the surviving fourth episode, which is not the best directed episode lets say - but Gough is majestic in it of course.
Anyway, I'd largely agree with Christopher's review on the designs/visuals of the animation, but I did find the story sufficiently imaginative and interesting, even if the games themselves were rather trite.
In any case, the Toymaker was certainly an exciting characterr and I'm rather curious as to why he wasn't a recurring one.
I'd agree with @Turtletrekker. And it is very well done to boot.OK, that was what I was leaning towards.
There were proposals for sequels: a Troughton about the Toymaker's sister, a Tom where the Toymaker proves to be the power behind the big bad, and of course Nightmare Fair.Honestly I found Gough's vocal performance less effective than his Sherlock Holmes gig I mentioned earlier. He was a great villain actor, but I don't think this character, or certainly this script, made the best use of his talents.
Yeah, it's bizarre how these are supposed to be these intricate games requiring great skill to solve, but they're really so simple and clumsy. The whole script seems to be talking down to its audience, making Dodo such a dodo that she needs the Doctor to explain obvious things like impersonating the Toymaker's voice. (Yes, I know it's a kids' show, but it's rarely had such a low estimate of children's ability to comprehend as this serial seemed to.) And Steven's lines got very repetitive, telling Dodo the same things over and over.
Perhaps because this serial was so problematical, or perhaps because it was erased and largely forgotten. Or maybe it was difficult to tell stories about such a powerful adversary. Although they almost brought him back in "The Nightmare Fair" in the cancelled Colin Baker season. Graham Williams's novelization of that was very well-written, which surprised me, since I thought Williams's run as producer was the weakest in the classic show's history. (Also since the other two Missing Episodes novelizations I read were really bad.)
The Queen of Time is pretty good: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Queen_of_Time_(audio_story)There were proposals for sequels: a Troughton about the Toymaker's sister, a Tom where the Toymaker proves to be the power behind the big bad, and of course Nightmare Fair.
Spearhead looks amazing compared to other early Pertwee episodes due to being filmed all on 16mm film.Started rewatching classic DW again in the past few days.
So far, I (re-)watched "The Romans", "The Celestial Toymaker" (the colour animation for the first time!), "The Underwater Menace" (also catching up on the colour animation I hadn't seen before), "The Moonbase" and, finally, the 3rd Doctor "Spearhead from Space", "Doctor Who and the Silurians" and "The Ambassadors of Death".
Spearhead looks amazing compared to other early Pertwee episodes due to being filmed all on 16mm film.
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