“Transporter Phasers” (from SFA “Vitus Reflux”)

[mithril]

Or use any one of the Shuttle's Transporter Buffer's that are sitting in the Shuttle Bay in the back of the Enterprise-E.

But the Lapel Pin was clearly stated to be only useful for transporting 1-person, 1-way, & short distance as a "Emergency Get Out of Trouble" card.

He didn't go far, from the Scimitar to the Bridge of the Enterprise-E.

They were still very close to each other, so hundreds of meters at best.

Which isn't really useful in terms of long range transportation, but great for "GTFO of trouble".

the dominion demonstrated a personal transporter in DS9 "The Jemhadar", which could apparently be hidden within a bit of wrist jewelry. (when Eris beams off DS9 at the end)
so it is possible that the lapel pin transporter in Nemesis was just an early federation attempt to duplicate an aspect of the dominion's more mature transporter technology.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

the dominion demonstrated a personal transporter in DS9 "The Jemhadar", which could apparently be hidden within a bit of wrist jewelry. (when Eris beams off DS9 at the end)
so it is possible that the lapel pin transporter in Nemesis was just an early federation attempt to duplicate an aspect of the dominion's more mature transporter technology.

The same thing happened with kidnapping Kira Nerys to Empok Nor by Gul Dukat & his Pah-Wraith cult.

They hid a "Homing Transponder" on one of Kira's Necklaces.

I wouldn't be surprised if Eris had a similar Homing Transponder hidden in her wrist Jewelry that she knew how to activate for "Emergency Beam Out".

This could easily be a similar technology that StarFleet was copying in it's early infancy.

 

[UssGlenn]

a portable independent transporter should be no smaller than a suitcase. Ideally you lie it down flat and stand on the pad built into it. It should only have enough power stored for one transport, unless it's plugged in. Anything smaller should be a controller and homing beacon.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

a portable independent transporter should be no smaller than a suitcase. Ideally you lie it down flat and stand on the pad built into it. It should only have enough power stored for one transport, unless it's plugged in. Anything smaller should be a controller and homing beacon.

What size suitcase are we talking about?

 

[DonIago]

I kind of like the idea that Eris killed herself knowing that she had a new clone waiting for her.

 

[Christopher]

the dominion demonstrated a personal transporter in DS9 "The Jemhadar", which could apparently be hidden within a bit of wrist jewelry. (when Eris beams off DS9 at the end)

I always presumed the bracelet was just a signal beacon for a long-range transporter based somewhere out of sensor range -- or on a ship cloaked in a way that the station's sensors couldn't detect. After all, O'Brien said "I'm picking up a transporter signature but I can't trace it." That doesn't make it sound like the transport originated right there in Ops. It sounds like he couldn't tell where it came from. (Yes, you could bend it to mean he couldn't tell where it was going, but that's not what the phrasing implies to me.) After all, we've seen interstellar transporters used before as far back as "The Gamesters of Triskelion," "Assignment: Earth," and "That Which Survives." TNG: "Bloodlines" established that the Federation was aware of the technology but didn't use it due to its danger and impracticality. So it's plausible that the Dominion had interstellar transporters that could lock onto Eris's bracelet beacon over a great distance, perhaps even through the wormhole.

 

[DonIago]

Unfortunately the chronology doesn't support it, but it would have been ironic if the Dominion used Starfleet's own relay to allow them to transport through the wormhole.

On the one hand, one might assume Starfleet would notice if their relay was being appropriated in such a manner. On the other hand, it would be easy enough to handwave a reason why they didn't.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I always presumed the bracelet was just a signal beacon for a long-range transporter based somewhere out of sensor range -- or on a ship cloaked in a way that the station's sensors couldn't detect. After all, O'Brien said "I'm picking up a transporter signature but I can't trace it." That doesn't make it sound like the transport originated right there in Ops. It sounds like he couldn't tell where it came from. (Yes, you could bend it to mean he couldn't tell where it was going, but that's not what the phrasing implies to me.) After all, we've seen interstellar transporters used before as far back as "The Gamesters of Triskelion," "Assignment: Earth," and "That Which Survives." TNG: "Bloodlines" established that the Federation was aware of the technology but didn't use it due to its danger and impracticality. So it's plausible that the Dominion had interstellar transporters that could lock onto Eris's bracelet beacon over a great distance, perhaps even through the wormhole.

I just assumed they used SubSpace Transporting instead of Normal-Space Transporting.

SubSpace Transporting is the only one that can accomplish such distances measured in light years.

But you need a Homing Transponder giving you super accurate location data.

That's how Kira Nerys was kidnapped from DS9 to Empok Nor over

 

[tharpdevenport]

Yes. Technology isn't magic. There should be reasonable limits on what even the most advanced technology is capable of.

[...]but imposing reasonable limits on the protagonists' capabilities, whether technological or magical, is a good way to keep them from being too powerful or getting out of trouble too easily.

That's my thing, too. Not just because there's never any real danger and if the good guys can do anything, why can't the bad guys, but also technology so powerful that can be used so many ways, especially strategically and carefully laid-out plans yet none of that is taken into consideration of the writers. This kind of harkens back to what I came up with many years ago here at TrekBBS, the "No V'gers" rule: super powerful, could do anything, doesn't, seen once, forgotten, even though it has galaxy-wide (or universe wide) implications.

A transporter room has a control panel, operated in real time for a transporter chief (and we se how often things go wrong even with someone who knows what they are doing at the controls), a sending and receiving end area, buffers, multiple things we have no idea what they do but it takes a whole room to do it (and according to old articles I saw, the transporters have technology that goes under the floor and into the ceiling, so there is more to them than what we see), but portable transpoters? Ones small enough to be in a comm badge? Please. It's stupid, it's not buyable.

"Oh, it's one way" someone might say. Okay, well, why not just take a bunch with you. If anybody can suddenly use it, what's to stop crew member with ill intent from playing out a trap and getting away before it concludes? What's to keep a ill-intentioned crew member from tagging you with the badge and sending you some place, like say, space where you die. One way trip, after all. Those are just some ideas. Heaven forbid a bad guy finds out. We see how often secrets leak out and aliens races know things about Federation technology, so if they captured you, what's to stop them from taking those off you (maybe no place safe for you to beam away to), loosing one/damaging one in battle, etc.

It's dumb. And if something happens during transporter and you aren't a trained trnasporter operator, you're as screwed as screwed can be.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

I'm not sure if this was said in TOS or TNG but didn't someone say the Enterprise could destroy a planet if it had to?

 

[UssGlenn]

What size suitcase are we talking about?

Like 20x25 inches.

 

[Christopher]

I'm not sure if this was said in TOS or TNG but didn't someone say the Enterprise could destroy a planet if it had to?

General Order 24 in "A Taste of Armageddon" was an order to destroy all life on a planet.

Of course, even a shuttlecraft with impulse engines could destroy all life a planet, or at least most of it. Kinetic energy goes as mass times the square of velocity, so even a small ship hitting a planet at a fair percentage of the speed of light would have kinetic energy on the order of the asteroid that caused the Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Like 20x25 inches.

Your missing the 3rd dimension, how thick?

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

General Order 24 in "A Taste of Armageddon" was an order to destroy all life on a planet.

Of course, even a shuttlecraft with impulse engines could destroy all life a planet, or at least most of it. Kinetic energy goes as mass times the square of velocity, so even a small ship hitting a planet at a fair percentage of the speed of light would have kinetic energy on the order of the asteroid that caused the Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction.

Did they ever say how General Order 24 was to be carried out?

 

[tharpdevenport]

By building a lot of droids to exterminate all the Jedi, of course. ;-)

 

[Christopher]

Did they ever say how General Order 24 was to be carried out?

"This is the commander of the USS Enterprise. All cities and installations on Eminiar Seven have been located, identified, and fed into our fire control system. In one hour and forty-five minutes, the entire inhabited surface of your planet will be destroyed. You have that long to surrender your hostages." -- Montgomery Scott, "A Taste of Armageddon"

 

[UssGlenn]

Your missing the 3rd dimension, how thick?

so it's around 20x24x8, I'm thinking classic Aluminum Haliburton luggage as the base. I think that's a believable size for a one shot unit.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

"This is the commander of the USS Enterprise. All cities and installations on Eminiar Seven have been located, identified, and fed into our fire control system. In one hour and forty-five minutes, the entire inhabited surface of your planet will be destroyed. You have that long to surrender your hostages." -- Montgomery Scott, "A Taste of Armageddon"

OK I didn't remember Scotty saying that but geez.. If that's what an old constitution class can do what can the Enterprise D or E do to a planet?

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

so it's around 20x24x8, I'm thinking classic Aluminum Haliburton luggage as the base. I think that's a believable size for a one shot unit.

So how heavy do you think it should be?
We're assuming it's on wheels like most luggage.

Remember, it has to carry either (batteries or a small generator) on top of the Transporter Equipment & SubSpace Transceivers.
Unless you want the power unit to be external plug-in type.

Also the Computing Power would be limited compared to a Full-Size Transporter Room on a StarShip.
So how slow do you think the Transporter Cycle should be compared to modern Transporters of the Era (Assuming late 24th Century or Early 25th Century).

For reference: Earth's 'Father of the Transporter', Emory Erickson's very First Transporter was pretty slow.
90 Seconds to go through the Full Transporter Cycle for the Very Original Transporter on Earth in the 22nd Century.

"that original transporter took a full minute and a half to cycle through.
Felt like a year. You could actually feel yourself being taken apart and put back together.
When I materialized, first thing I did was lose my lunch. Second thing I did was get stone drunk."

Where as modern Full-Size Transporters are a few seconds.

Spoiler: Star Trek Transporter VFX Through the Years

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So how fast do you think the Transporter Cycle would be for the Portable Transporter compared to a standard Transporter Room on a Ship/Base?

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

eeeeeww that would feel horrible and frightening if it was that slow