Wrong old Trek was perfect in every way. Or at least that is true to some newTrek haters.
I am someone that loves the old Trek. DS9 and TNG are two of my favorite three shows of all time. But I admit they both had flaws.
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I am someone that loves the old Trek. DS9 and TNG are two of my favorite three shows of all time. But I admit they both had flaws.
It a new ship!!!!!! Parts weren't finished yet!!!!! Restore the 79 cut!!!!!!
Wasn't that cut out of the theatrical release?
Yes. I don’t recall if it was in the DE but it’s definitely in the SLV and not the theatrical.
They were also made thirty years ago. With the budget and shorter production schedules, it would seem like flubs would become less and less likely.
You know, Star Trek; 79 episodes, about 30 good ones.
But from what I understand Abrams also wanted to stop the merchandizing and selling on non-Abrams Trek related material going forward...
(Much in the same way GR hope TNG would completely supplant TOS and TOS merchandizing would die out in favor of the newer TNG 'brand'. Except Abrams actually wanted all merchandizing of previous Trek material completely stopped <--- And that was a major sticking point for him and Paramount.)
Definitely the SLV. Threw in some deleted scenes to pad its ABC time slot.
What they did flub on the theatrical release was that matte painting of the Enterprise saucer when they are inside the central part of V'ger.
Not in the theatrical cut, but that glaring shot was included in at least two versions Paramount sold and for decades. The most expensive movie in history for almost ten years, and even that lavish orgy of effects and music couldn't avoid some big snafus in visual continuity or production issues.
What they did flub on the theatrical release was that matte painting of the Enterprise saucer when they are inside the central part of V'ger.
Oh god, even the first time I saw that movie when I was like 4, I thought it looked strange. Once I learned what happened, I was like, “well, that’s just awful.”
Which is why I agreed with Abrams ideaIt wouldn't have went on forever. This stuff changes on a dime.
That matte painting sucks. I love the movie - it's my favorite Trek film and there's no question about it. But that painting is not good.
Without seeing the totality of the proposal, I don't know if it was a good idea or not.
To me, TMP was a miracle. It wasn't an easy shoot, yet they still ended up making the most memorable Star Trek movie, in my book.
From what I've read over the years with various sources I think his idea to reduce competition for limited audience dollars, increase visibility through merchandising, and focus heavily being very visual apparent to new audiences was reasonable.
Probably the flaw in it all. Paramount wanted more money, not the same money being spent on a more expensive-to-produce product.
If you haven’t read them I highly recommend Return to Tomorrow by Preston Neal Jones (if you can find it) and ST:TMP - Inside the Art and Visual Effects by Jeff Bond and Gene Kosicki. Highly recommended BTS books on TMP.
ETA: All of this TMP talk, I might delay episode 4 of Plur1bus and break out the 4K set to watch the SLV tonight instead after the kids go to bed. The wife is traveling.
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We are talking about the eyeball. The Iris. I dont think anyone has ever put Maybelline on the eye ball only eye lids.
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