Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread
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The miniaturized remote-controlled whales that portrayed George and Gracie were far more convincing than the CGI whale we saw in Academy episode 2.
We are very fortunate indeed
yes , this show looks expensive. I adore all the easter eggs and returning species (Brikar, Exocomps etc). If they did lower the budget a bit , this could go on for many seasons. Now that they already have their massive sets built
Star Trek is never niche and never will be.
It's a juggernaut in the TV landscape and it's the most recognizable franchise on par with DC, Marvel and Star Wars.
It's a juggernaut in the TV landscape and it's the most recognizable franchise on par with DC, Marvel and Star Wars.
Not in any conceivable scope or scale. Star Trek never has nor ever will bring in the kind of money that those above listed franchises bring in.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
It has massive brand recognition but that doesn't necessary mean it has lots of fans. Characters like Kirk and Spock and the Starship Enterprise are known to people who have never watched any of the actual shows or maybe they have seen a few from time to time over the years.
Trek has been my favourite franchise since i was 11 years old back in the 90s, but i'd be lying to myself if i said it had the same market recognition or profitability of those other juggernauts .
I'll consider it a win if SFA gets season 3. I'd love a modern trek to run seven seasons, but it just isn't going to happen anymore
I'll consider it a win if SFA gets season 3. I'd love a modern trek to run seven seasons, but it just isn't going to happen anymore
Star Trek's a multi-billion dollar franchise with huge cultural capital, definitely not a niche thing (though I assume it is far less lucrative than Star Wars and Marvel). You can walk into the boardroom of Goldman Sachs and say "Spock" and everyone knows who you mean.
The whole reason CBS/Paramount wanted to bring it back in 2017 was the brand recognition; I mean, nobody's making "Space Precinct: Discovery".
The whole reason CBS/Paramount wanted to bring it back in 2017 was the brand recognition; I mean, nobody's making "Space Precinct: Discovery".
That's a whale of a tale.
'War fighter'? Such an idiotic way of saying soldier. Your hegseth is showing.
Yeah, it’s niche. We like it that way.
Look, people may know Kirk, Spock, Picard, Data or Seven of Nine. But how many people know Garak? Or T’Pol? Or what a Trill is? How many know Saru? Or Pike? Mariner? Or Zero? Brand recognition is one thing. Having the market saturation of a Marvel or a Star Wars is something Trek definitely does not have. Star Trek toys do not sell. The box office and viewership is not to those levels. I love my Star Trek but just because some ad execs do doesn’t mean that Ma and Pa Smith know what a phaser or photon torpedo is.
Look, people may know Kirk, Spock, Picard, Data or Seven of Nine. But how many people know Garak? Or T’Pol? Or what a Trill is? How many know Saru? Or Pike? Mariner? Or Zero? Brand recognition is one thing. Having the market saturation of a Marvel or a Star Wars is something Trek definitely does not have. Star Trek toys do not sell. The box office and viewership is not to those levels. I love my Star Trek but just because some ad execs do doesn’t mean that Ma and Pa Smith know what a phaser or photon torpedo is.
I dearly wish that were the case and we were looking at Lower Decks, Discovery and SNW carrying on comfortably beyond their five seasons, a long future ahead for Academy, the Star Trek United project on its way and a slew of Michelle Yeoh Section 31 films. This is sadly not the world we live in.
I like niche, I think Doctor Who has been struggling with accepting it's niche for the past 15 years. It's extremely popular but it's not gonna be Star Wars and that's fine. Also could scale back the budget a lot and lose very little.
People's knowledge comes mostly from TOS (which has a large cultural footprint) and TNG (which was unusually successful), so pop culture knowledge probably focuses on that. People might not know who Mariner is, but people probably do know vaguely what a mind-meld is, what a nerve pinch is, "phasers on stun", the LLAP hand gesture, and who Worf is. My grandma knew him and called him Mars Bar Head.
Like, I'm not a fan of Marvel at all, but I can tell you who Spider-Man is. I can't tell you who half the other people I got teamed up with in the Midnight Suns game are though.
It would be really nice if they did, though. I'd watch it.
Spock is now 60 years old.
I know, right? The alien head costumes blew me away as a kid, absolutely loved it.
Being popular doesnt mean that though necessarily. In fact, despite Star Wars' position, I cant think of any show they've made lasting longer than 2 seasons. I'd argue these shows all hitting 5 seasons in this current landscape is kind of remarkable already. It's why I will always wish we got more Lower Decks, but will also always be grateful we got so much. I think I can count the number of popular US cartoons that have had 3 or more seasons after 2015 on my hands.
Mandalorian has 3 seasons so far, whether it'll get a 4th before this big culmination film is unclear.
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