Starfleet Academy Starship Thread
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Nerd privilege I know but these things really bother me when birthdays and phone numbers and stuff are used without any real thought for logic or continuity.
Progress on my version continues. Only major structure left to build is the nacelle(s).
Custom Athena Starship Design Thread
Custom Athena Starship Design Thread
Yeah. The Nebula-class U.S.S. Bonchune (NCC-70915) for Robert Bonchune's birthdate of 1970.09.15 is an example of a good registry homaging something external to the fictional universe. On the other hand, the Galaxy-class U.S.S. Syracuse (NCC-17744) for the Syracuse University football program is really bad!
Just remember it's apparently ok for God-Emperor Matalas to make these mistakes. But if Discovery or SNW did it you would never hear the end of how canon and the world-building has been disrespected.
I was rewatching the “Going to San Francisco” scene and it occurred to me, does the Athena, without her nacelles and wings, remind anyone else of Matt Jeffries early “flying saucer” concept for the Enterprise?
I was just re-watching episode 1 and realised during the scene with Braka in engineering that the warp core appears to just be a shaft of light with no housing/casing. I assume it's held together by some type of forcefield. If that's the case it's a cool little bit of world-building around how advanced 32nd century tech is.
Also, the Athena either departed the Trappist shipyard (based on the construction location on the dedication plaque) or Bajor. Bajor is 52 light years away from Earth (according to the DS9 tech manual) and Trappist is 41 light years. Bajor to Earth would be a 12 day journey at warp 9 and Trappist around 10. Given the Athena can travel the distance in 15 hours that points to 32nd century warp being substantially faster than 24th/25th century.
Also, the Athena either departed the Trappist shipyard (based on the construction location on the dedication plaque) or Bajor. Bajor is 52 light years away from Earth (according to the DS9 tech manual) and Trappist is 41 light years. Bajor to Earth would be a 12 day journey at warp 9 and Trappist around 10. Given the Athena can travel the distance in 15 hours that points to 32nd century warp being substantially faster than 24th/25th century.
The Defiant made the trip from Earth to Bajor in somewhere between 3-5 days.
And ship speed actually jumped a good bit post Voyager.
Really, the real question here is why they were using a regular Warp drive instead of Protowarp since that would have gotten them to Earth in minutes.
Oh wow, yeah, I can definitely see it! Would be cool if that was one of the touchpoints for the design. The teardrop shaped saucer ring and the “impulse drive” element sitting on top look like they made their way straight to the Athena. Just add those “wings” and nacelles and you’re practically there …
And it picks up VHF.
10/10 design then.And it picks up VHF.
Yeah, I don’t mind when they use people’s birthdays, historical event dates, or even college football stats, etc. for registry numbers. I would just like for them to make sense in the context of the show. If I wanted to use my birthday for a TNG-era ship’s registry, 73115 would work fine. But if I was born in 1930, making the registry 30115 would not make sense…chronologically speaking, of course.
The USS Franklin from STB was named after Justin Lin’s dad, Frank Lin, and its registry, NX-326, was a reference to Leonard Nimoy’s birthday, March 26th.
The Cerritos falls victim to this. 75567 makes it a newer construction than Voyager but the characters talk about it like it's the Stargazer. It may be an older class but they act like the Cerritos itself is ancient and barely held together.
Did they really talk about her as an old ship, though? I always got the impression that the idea was that the Cerritos just wasn’t necessarily the most top-of-the-line, premium, high-end ship of the fleet. Your basic, average, support vessel. Compared to more prestigious frontline explorers it might be undergunned, not as fast and somewhat smaller. It’s not fancy, but it’s charming.
But also, the registry might give an indication when a ship was commissioned, which might be recently, but it doesn’t necessarily tell you anything about how old the ship class may be. Design-wise I always felt the Cerritos was meant to evoke the era of the Ambassador class, on its way to the elegance of the Galaxy class, but not quite as organic yet. So the California class might have been around for a while, but the Cerritos could still be more recent.
But also, the registry might give an indication when a ship was commissioned, which might be recently, but it doesn’t necessarily tell you anything about how old the ship class may be. Design-wise I always felt the Cerritos was meant to evoke the era of the Ambassador class, on its way to the elegance of the Galaxy class, but not quite as organic yet. So the California class might have been around for a while, but the Cerritos could still be more recent.
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