Superman
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Now I dunno about that; I think our militant friend here would fit just as well in a buddy movie with Gunn's Rocket Raccoon.
This made my morning!
And what's with the igloo in the Reeve/Slater one? It looks more like the building on Krypton instead of Reeve's fortress.
It's the Lars homestead from when they lived on Hoth
There are spoiler reports out for the Supergirl trailer.
You know the drill - the descriptions are generic and sound predictable enough that they'll be widely discounted for a few days, then an insider will confirm somewhere on reddit, then the veracity/identity of the insider will be challenged, and after a week or so the trailer will show up looking a lot like the early descriptions.
Superman got a mid-December trailer for a July 11 launch. Supergirl premieres this June. CCXP starts tomorrow.
You know the drill - the descriptions are generic and sound predictable enough that they'll be widely discounted for a few days, then an insider will confirm somewhere on reddit, then the veracity/identity of the insider will be challenged, and after a week or so the trailer will show up looking a lot like the early descriptions.
Superman got a mid-December trailer for a July 11 launch. Supergirl premieres this June. CCXP starts tomorrow.
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I honestly think that Superman II, at least the Donner Cut, gets too much flack. I'd put it very close to the first movie quality wise, even with its flaws. Superman (2025) gets to be high on the list kind of by default, considering its competition (although I have a fondness for Superman IV, even while acknowledging that its a terrible movie).
Also, I know they're animated and not theatrical films, but the Superman vs The Elite and All Star Superman animated movies are both excellent and worth a mention when talking about movies starring Superman.
Superman 2 has Superman thoughtlessly give up his powers to be with his deranged stalker, sadistically torture Zod for little to no reason, violate Lois' mind without her permission and then go back and beat up that Trucker in petty revenge for what happened earlier.
I'll never get why folks thought it was a good movie to start with.
They should have. This storyline for Superman was appalling.
Petty revenge spoke to us all.
In the donner cut, Clark reversed that petty act, so it never happened, because I assume Zod killed millions, so it was necessary?
I doubt they would have time travelled at the end of both movies, which means that the time travel at the end of movie one only happened because movie two shit the bed.
What was the original non time travel end to the Superman The Movie?
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We’ve had this discussion before (we’ve had pretty much all of them before at this point), but I’ve never had a problem with Superman teaching bullies a little lesson. Reeve did it, Welling did it, Cavill did it. I was fine with it every time.
I don’t believe Superman should be primarily a power fantasy, but that’s undeniably a part of his appeal. Bullies suck, and I find a little super-payback both satisfying and deserved.
I don’t believe Superman should be primarily a power fantasy, but that’s undeniably a part of his appeal. Bullies suck, and I find a little super-payback both satisfying and deserved.
That still doesn't change all the other major problems Superman 2 had, like Superman stupidly giving up his powers and being a sadist later and mind-warping Lois.
Superman II is not my favorite Superman movie, but I think calling these things “major problems” is a little overstated. Probably the complaint that has the most merit is erasing Lois’s memory, but watching the scene in context, it’s clearly presented as an act of love and compassion, to spare her the pain of living with what she knows. Yes, it’s not a decision he should be making for her, and it’s hopefully not a choice a filmmaker would make today, but it’s also the opposite of the act of selfishness it’s often made out to be. (In spirit and intent, it’s much like Spock erasing the suffering Kirk’s memories at the end of “Requiem for Methuselah.”)
What, the writers couldn't develop the story with Lois actually knowing about Clark and helping him as a REAL partner? She was "too weak" to handle it?
You are talking to the wrongest of wrong people if you expect me to argue against Lois and Clark being equal partners. I’ve said many times that Superman stories are always better when Lois knows. This was, however, almost half a century ago, and the “triangle of two” was still the Superman default. As I said, I would trust that a filmmaker would make a different choice today.
Wow, I didn't realize there'd been that many onscreen Kryptos. I know there've been a few animated versions, but I thought the only two live actions versions we'd gotten were Titans' and the Gunn DCU's. I remember the Kents having a golden in Smallvile, but I thought it was just a regular dog. I'm assuming the DCEU version must be in Zack Snyder's Justice League since that's the only one of those movies I haven't seen, and the Arrowverse version must be from the last season of Superman & Lois since I've all the rest of the Arrowverse, I'm pretty sure I'd remember Krytpo if he appeared before that.
I'm also a little surprised to see they used what looks like it might be an Akita in the DCEU, since he usually a Lab or a Golden.
There haven’t. That image is, obviously, AI-generated, and it created Kryptos that never actually existed. Much like it put Welling and Vandervoort in costumes they never wore.
Though the fact that several of the dogs don’t have capes may mean they’re not supposed to be Kryptos at all, at least not in the super-sense. The Smallville dog was briefly super, thanks to human experimentation, but he didn't stay that way. And Clark did get a (non-super) dog in the final episode of S&L. No idea where the DCEU pooch comes from, though.
I'm writing a Green Lantern story set in a version of 1968 all about selling toys door to door across the heartland, that really spun-out into the whole DCU, but there is a lot of fun in writing Lois in the dark, and almost just almost completely figuring it out over and over again.
Does the Wisdom of Solomon actually work, because the entire (homeless) Marvel Family should have figured out that Clark is Superman from just reading back issues of the daily planet they are sleeping under on the street?
Does the Wisdom of Solomon actually work, because the entire (homeless) Marvel Family should have figured out that Clark is Superman from just reading back issues of the daily planet they are sleeping under on the street?
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