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Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

I mean...it's hard to care about any of this because it all just seems like vaporware at this point.

The difference is we have new people in charge of Paramount. Also it seems like they are separating who is charge of Trek movies from who also does the tv shows. Ellison I think is why this is going to happen. Their is now some stability at the top.
 
Might want to ignore the Burn. Heck they could say the Federation fell apart years before it did on that show. All depends of course on their idea for the movie.

How many Star Trek movies or episodes before the third season of Discovery bothered to talk about the state of the Federation in the 32nd century? For that matter, how many Star Trek movies or episodes were specifically written to overwrite some other Star Trek movie or episode to say that it doesn't count any more?

Whatever we get will ignore the Burn because the Burn will be irrelevant, for basically the same reason that Jane Austen's characters don't worry about how the prevalence of smartphones and social media is changing their society.
 
How many Star Trek movies or episodes before the third season of Discovery bothered to talk about the state of the Federation in the 32nd century? For that matter, how many Star Trek movies or episodes were specifically written to overwrite some other Star Trek movie or episode to say that it doesn't count any more?

Whatever we get will ignore the Burn because the Burn will be irrelevant, for basically the same reason that Jane Austen's characters don't worry about how the prevalence of smartphones and social media is changing their society.

Hard to say because we don't know what story they want to do. Of course I could see them really shaking things up. Basically set in a version of Trek were the Federation has been around for decades without Earth or a Starfleet. We would see Earth's first warp ship now that it's a member of this alien dominated Federation. My money though is on the movie feeling more like 'Galaxy Quest" than any previous Star Trek movie.
 
Might want to ignore the Burn. Heck they could say the Federation fell apart years before it did on that show. All depends of course on their idea for the movie.
Not just no, but hell no, fuck no, and get the hell out of here with that bullshit no. Deciding to selectively pick and choose what parts of the continuity to continue on with while ignoring others would be an even stupider decision than starting over with a brand new continuity. I generally accuse people of hyperbole when they that say such and such is insulting to the fans, but that would be genuinely insulting.
 
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The idea of a reboot is to start anew, not to say, you know, some of the people on TrekBBS only like Berman Trek, so everything else goes out the window. But we're going to stay consistent with the Bermanverse. We haven't figured out which Bermanverse Trill are the real Trill but it should probably be like the one who met Bev, because who watched DS9 anyway. But we'll probably keep all the changes to Borg lore that Voyager made.
 
Though they say this isn't connected to any other Treks, I suspect it's still likely to be set in either the 23rd or 24th century (in either Prime or a new timeline) as those are the time periods most identified as being "Star Trek's time." So the Burn isn't going to factor into the movie at all.
 
Not just no, but hell no, fuck no, and get the hell out of here with that bullshit no. Deciding to selectively pick and choose what parts of the continuity to continue on with while ignoring others would be an even stupider decision than starting over with a brand new continuity. I generally accuse people of hyperbole when they that say such and such is insulting to the fans, but that would be genuinely insulting.
That sort of thing can also just be legitimately awkward to parse. There was a Dynamite Galactica 1980 comic that presented an alternative version of G1980 (fair enough), which took place in the original series continuity… except that the Cylons had been created by humans, and I believe there were various other differences one wouldn’t get without being explicitly told so in the dialogue. It was odd.
 
Considering the show has kind of disappeared from consciousness since it ended, I would love a Lower Decks movie on streaming.

If LD--a recent ST series--disappeared from consciousness so quickly after its cancellation, that's not the kind of production that would attract audiences--or make a profit.

Not just no, but hell no, fuck no, and get the hell out of here with that bullshit no. Deciding to selectively pick and choose what parts of the continuity to continue on with while ignoring others would be an even stupider decision than starting over with a brand new continuity.

Roddenberry did that with TAS; during the pre-release promotional appearances and run of the series, Roddenberry (and Fontana) actively referred to TAS as an official continuation of TOS, but as we all know, a few years later, Roddenberry would attempt to de-canon-ize TAS, yet some TAS elements were--as you describe the practice--selectively picked to find their way into post-TAS Treks. Let us not forget how he tried (and thankfully failed) to sell the notion that TMP was how TOS really looked, and that many of its episodes were apocryphal. If Jayson's idea is adopted by the new owners and writers, it would be a "been there, done that" situation for the franchise.
 
If LD--a recent ST series--disappeared from consciousness so quickly after its cancellation, that's not the kind of production that would attract audiences--or make a profit.
Will Starfleet Academy attract an audience, or make a profit? It's a spinoff from Discovery, which is kind of in the same league as LD (at least to me it is, maybe not). That's why I said streaming and not movie theater. Trek fans who have subscribed to P+ will already want to see it. Also, Lower Decks is still pretty accessible.
 
imagine a fresh brand new reboot with an all new crew on a brand new starship to start there 1st ever 5 year mission to explore strange new worlds to boldy go where no life form has gone before

and also where the reboot is set in a brand new start from scrach different star trek universe where its not connected to any of the past star trek universes
 
Not just no, but hell no, fuck no, and get the hell out of here with that bullshit no. Deciding to selectively pick and choose what parts of the continuity to continue on with while ignoring others would be an even stupider decision than starting over with a brand new continuity. I generally accuse people of hyperbole when they that say such and such is insulting to the fans, but that would be genuinely insulting.

But it's something done in other franchises a lot these days. It's just never happened yet to Trek but it does seem like it's just a matter time. I mean just look a Terminator. How many part 3's have they done at this point? THE MCU it seems is about to do it and James Gunn is more or less doing it with his DCU where anything made before only happened it it's established to have happened on the stuff he is making.

Granted some of this stuff can easily be head canon away as to have happened in another alternate universe and the Discovery future could easily be explained away like that. When "Discovery" crew left for the future they left behind a universe that will now not have The Burn. The universe they now exist in was one that still had one. More or less also what happened with the Kelvinverse. That crew lives in a universe were Vulcan blew up. The Prime universe never had that happen to Vulcan.

It's possible that even some major changes can be explained away. The only kind of changes that you basically just have to embrace as something completely different is if Trek you do a show or movie were something like how Data is Captain KIrk's first officer. The Enterprise looks really weird looking. Vulcans now have horns instead of pointy ears. Those kind of really huge changes where they are basically just taking all the toys and characters and really changing everything into something else where the only thing left might be this new vision still holds true to the spirit of Trek.
 
Though they say this isn't connected to any other Treks, I suspect it's still likely to be set in either the 23rd or 24th century (in either Prime or a new timeline) as those are the time periods most identified as being "Star Trek's time." So the Burn isn't going to factor into the movie at all.

I'm fine with that. Actually I am fine with anything. I just want the movie to be good. But I got to say the idea of doing yet another version of Kirk/Spock etc does not sound very interesting to me. I'm not sure I want another Enterprise even at this point. Not for awhile anyways.

I do think they will need something though that does scream Star Trek as some kind of connective tissue. I think that will be either the use of Starfleet or one or two of Trek's most core aliens such as Vulcans,Romulans,Klingons,Cardissians,Ferengi or Borg. I think those are maybe the most famous aliens on Trek were even non to casual fans sort of know who they are.
 
imagine a fresh brand new reboot with an all new crew on a brand new starship to start there 1st ever 5 year mission to explore strange new worlds to boldy go where no life form has gone before

and also where the reboot is set in a brand new start from scrach different star trek universe where its not connected to any of the past star trek universes
...and?
 
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