Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

[Christopher]

I think this was one among several reasons I never found Cain very convincing in the guise of Superman (though I thought he was a great Clark). Though to be fair, Christopher Reeve’s voice was not particularly deep either.

I know, but Reeve's voice didn't have the same back-of-the-throat quality as Cain's, so it sounded more middle-of-the road, if you'll pardon the mixed spatial-orientation metaphor. Now, if Cain had had the voice training to move his voice further forward and make it less nasal and reedy, as I eventually learned to do in order to come closer to my father's rich radio-announcer baritone, he could've differentiated Clark and Superman pretty well.

I did not like the idea of referencing it in the movie when I first heard about it — it seems to me ploddingly literal-minded to think the glasses trope needs to be “explained” — but the way that Gunn used it, basically as a throwaway gag, worked just fine for me.

I feel it would be a better gag if it had just been Guy's conspiracy theory. But that's okay, because I can just geek out about the gorgeous Union Terminal atrium around him. Art Deco meets monumental architecture!

 

[Guy Gardener]

And Clark wasn't some douchebag who decided to play a sick mindgame with her by deliberately doing such a thing.

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[JD]

Kara is younger than Kal-El, who was an infant when the planet blew up? So are we reverting to the classic origin where Argo City survived on an intact chunk of Krypton?

Yeah, Gunn said that was part of her backstory in an interview I read right after the movie started playing in theaters.

The specific comic next years movie is based on Supergirl : Woman of Tomorrow has flashbacks to her on Argo City in space. It’s a major part of her character and motivations in that. Kara and her father on Argo when everyone is slowly dying around them from Kryptonite poisoning. If my memory is correct as the flashbacks start her mother has already died.

I am glad they are going back to this because all other revisions are very contrived. We do not know in these movies how long she has been on Earth since escaping Argo. But at her age it would still be fresh memories. Which explains her reckless behavior as trying to deal with the trauma. Clark has none of those memories.

Yeah, it does sound like this it the backstory they're using for this version of Kara. He didn't go into a ton of detail, but Gunn said that Argo City survived on it's own after the rest of Krypton's destruction, and thing quickly went to hell. Growing up in that enviroment left Kara with a lot of trauma that she's now dealing with, or not dealing with, but drinking and partying all the time.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Yep. Which is some serious bullshit.

Total agreement. Normally I do not like movies being bootleged but someone should release that commentary as an audio file. We could listen to it with other versions.

 

[theenglish]

Total agreement. Normally I do not like movies being bootleged but someone should release that commentary as an audio file. We could listen to it with other versions.

What ever happened to including access to the digital version with a Blu Ray or DVD purchase?

 

[Firebird]

Apparently the audio commentary is only going to be in the digital release of the movie :/

The special feature release strategy for this makes no sense to me. Commentary tracks are always on the disc while the studios generally lock the documentary material or deleted scenes to digital only, but WHV is doing it backasswards...

 

[The Realist]

What ever happened to including access to the digital version with a Blu Ray or DVD purchase?

They still do that, and in fact the Superman Blu includes such access. To me, that’s really neither here nor there with regard to including the commentary on the physical release itself. It should be there.

 

[theenglish]

They still do that, and in fact the Superman Blu includes such access. To me, that’s really neither here nor there with regard to including the commentary on the physical release itself. It should be there.

It doesn't take that much space to add an audio track--I agree. Looks like I'll be getting the bluray. One thing I don't know about those digital releases. Are they still locked to a company software? I have a few DVDs in which I can't play the digital version any longer.

 

[The Realist]

Somebody else will have to answer that question. I never fool with the digital versions at all.

It doesn't take that much space to add an audio track--I agree.

It is absolutely not about disc space. Studios want to drive as many consumers as they can to digital, because to them it’s like money for nothing. That’s why they put extra goodies on there, deliberately screwing over fans of physical media in the interest of promoting digital delivery instead.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Kara is younger than Kal-El, who was an infant when the planet blew up? So are we reverting to the classic origin where Argo City survived on an intact chunk of Krypton?

Stay tuned.