20 years ago tonight the Enterprise finale aired. So....what's your opinion two decades on?

[Detached Nacelle]

I've just decided it was a purely fictitious simulation Troi threw together because she knew Riker enjoyed watching holodeck recreations of the NX-01 and the long road they had getting from there to here. Of course Troi is not as well versed in history and just made it up and she's certainly no author.

There's nothing that a powerful sense of headcanon and denial can't fix.

 

[Artoo Atari]

I've just decided it was a purely fictitious simulation Troi threw together because she knew Riker enjoyed watching holodeck recreations of the NX-01 and the long road they had getting from there to here. Of course Troi is not as well versed in history and just made it up and she's certainly no author.

There's nothing that a powerful sense of headcanon and denial can't fix.

Simulation? Riker? I remember the series finale of Enterprise involving Mars, some xenophobic faction, and a cloned Human-Vulcan baby, but I don't recall any holodeck simulations.

 

[suarezguy]

Why isn't TATV ever in any of these lists?

https://parade.com/tv/worst-tv-show-finales

Most people who did watch the show thought it went or was bad by within the first season, went really bad by then and/or was never really good to begin with.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Here's more fuel for the fire for those who believe that Steve Shives lurks here.

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[Timofnine]

This night was *glorious*! Much sh*t was shoved and many warnings were flung!!!!

 

[AntonyF]

Don't you mean it's been 20 years since Voyager premiered? I don't understand... I can't compute these time frames.

Enterprise I went through a bit of a wobble with at the time. I remember my immense enthusiasm when it started in no small part to Bakula. I gave up in season two.. a mixture of not happy with the episodes, Trek burn out and just growing up from my avid early like of Trek fandom. I got back into it and loved seasons 3 and 4.

Having rewatched a couple of years ago, even the ones I skipped, the show is good. It really excelled in those last two years of course.

And importantly it's far better than any recent Trek. It makes me really appreciate how good Enterprise was, even when it wasn't so good.

As to the finale? I still don't mind it. I take it as it was intended: not an Enterprise finale but a Star Trek finale. It was the end of an era, an era that will never be repeated. TNG was a big part of why Enterprise even existed and gave us four years so I don't mind that inclusion... although recently I did think it might have been better as a Sisko story - perhaps at a dark time in the Dominion war. And at the time I felt - and still do - it gave me warmth that Enterprise's actions had positive influence far into the future. That it MATTERED.

Killing Trip seemed needless mind you.

Enterprise hit me at a different time in my life than TNG/DS9/VOY, and wasn't really as good as those collectively... but I remain very fond of it. And I wish we had its quality today.

 

[XCV330]

rewatching ENT lately has made me realize I actually do want to have an Archer series. Just call it season 5.

I suppose time and distance has put things in perspective for me. When I was in my early thirties on a trip to across the channels, I saw a dying network giving birth to a sitcom. It was truly amazing. Within minutes, the sitcom was standing up, standing up on its own. A few more minutes, and it was walking; and before I knew it, it was running alongside its parent network, moving away with the herd in a cloud of canned laughter. Network owned prequel spinoffs of first-run syndication spinoffs aren't like that, Ambassador. They may come from the same network as those sitcoms, but they're pretty much helpless when they're born. It takes them years before they're able to crawl past their bizarro show creators; almost a full decade before the flame wars about them simmer down into slowly eroding entrenched positions. Our deep fan mission isn't much different. We're going to stumble, make mistakes - I'm sure more than a few, before we find our footing and appreciation of Enterprise and Discovery. But we're going to learn from those mistakes. That's what being human is all about. That and avoiding putting actresses in catsuits. I'm sorry you can't see that.

 

[Misuka]

In my head canon, Trip did as Shran and faked his dead with help of the crew because of what happened in the Romulan War.

 

[Mudd]

I liked it a lot at the time. I never think about it now.

 

[cooleddie74]

Shame we never got Season 5 for a lot of reasons both big and small, but we missed out on this. Thankfully we got it almost 20 years later in Season 3 of PIC, but I still wish Terry Matalas had given us a close up of the NX-01 Refit.

 

[HotRod]

Shame we never got Season 5 for a lot of reasons both big and small, but we missed out on this. Thankfully we got it almost 20 years later in Season 3 of PIC, but I still wish Terry Matalas had given us a close up of the NX-01 Refit.

Still don’t care for the refit. I thought building a model of it would change my mind, but nope, it didn’t. I feel like it ruined the clean, graceful lines of the NX class. But that’s just me.

I’m kinda glad we never got a close-up shot of it. That gives me some plausible deniability to imagine that it wasn’t actually the Enterprise, but one of her sister ships, while the real NX-01 is tucked away, safe and sound, deep within the Spacedock. Or hell, maybe it’s in the Smithsonian, sitting right next to the Phoenix.

 

[Dukhat]

We don’t actually know what the CGI models used at the Museum were labeled, other than the closeup shots of the specific ships Seven and Jack were looking at. The artwork Blass posted of all the ships was just that: artwork. They weren’t the CGI meshes. So for all we know, that NX class CGI model had no name or registry. It also doesn’t make sense from a story point-of-view for that ship to have been the NX-01. Frontier Day was about the launching of the NX-01 ( or at least, that’s what it was retconned as later), so why would the NX-01 be in the Museum when the celebration for it is at Earth?

 

[FederationHistorian]

I've just decided it was a purely fictitious simulation Troi threw together because she knew Riker enjoyed watching holodeck recreations of the NX-01 and the long road they had getting from there to here. Of course Troi is not as well versed in history and just made it up and she's certainly no author.

Not sure how anyone could come to any other conclusion but that.

Riker skips ahead an hour from Shran’s hail to Shran in Archer’s ready room. When T’Pol said that they lost five hours to find Shran’s shuttle. Pretty sure Riker’s math is way off. Mayweather might have been rounding with his math, meaning it may not have been literally 10 years/2161, but T’Pol’s math would be accurate, since she’s Vulcan. Yet Riker does not clue in.

Then Troi recommends a historical holoprogram, that she herself later admits she’s never run. And therefore has no idea if it’s as accurate as the history books she refers to.

Then factor in Riker’s questioning about Trip & T’Pol’s relationship likely altering the program for his entertainment all the way to Archer and T’Pol grieving Trip in Trip’s quarters. Mean neither that scene or Trip and T’Pol discussion in the shuttle may have happened at all.

 

[Dukhat]

Unfortunately, none of that speculation has been confirmed by canon sources, and as far as the people who are currently producing Star Trek are concerned, the holodeck program we saw was exactly how everything happened.