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Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?

The Connie III is a reworking of a fan design (Shangri-La Class) that is seemingly inspired by another fan design (Belknap Class), which is inspired by a refit of the original Enterprise.

Which is emblematic of a big problem with a lot of recent Trek and much of pop-culture these days - it's all photocopies of photocopies.
 
They can't put Star Trek to rest until they make Star Trek: The Lost Years, the first Trek series made just for me, about the years 2293-2363, exactly 70 years of monster maroons, Excelsiors, Mirandas, the Tomed Incident and the last of the Romulans until 2344, the Cardassian War, young Picard on the Stargazer, young Miles O'Brien working a transporter for the first time, Noonien Soong building Data and Lore and then the USS Tripoli finding Data later and influencing him to join Starfleet, the Enterprise-C at Narendra III, the USS Intrepid rescuing young Worf, the Setlik III massacre (whatever date it takes place in), young Sisko and Curzon Dax on the USS Livingston, the construction of Terok Nor, the Pegasus mutiny, the USS Olympia launching to the Beta Quadrant, and most of all, the switch from the monster maroons to the TNG season 1 jumpsuits, because I desperately need a date for that. Screw Star Trek: Legacy. Nobody gives a shit about nepo babies on an Enterprise that looks wildly anchronistic. Gimme a show with the same exact production values as the TMP films and TNG "Tapestry." This fan will not want anything less.
Even though I want Legacy, I'll take your version of The Lost Years too!

I'd do it For All Mankind style and have every season in a different decade. Cover the whole thing, from the 2290s to the 2350s. That way, anyone who wants it closer to TUC and anyone who wants it closer to TNG can get something.
 
I haven't called you the Terrance Howard of Pseudo-intellectuals, so kindly don't refer to me as Elon Musk.

And yes, restoring Earth has to be the goal. But if a comet hits, you're fucked. Ultimately manufacturing and even farming can be moved off-world, and if that were to happen, some would want to move with that. Some would just want to move because they want to. This would permit parts of Earth go back to an undomesticated state in many areas. The two goals are copacetic.
i hate this thing where a longstanding, hopeful, idea for the future and it's believers are suddenly garbage for no reason other than musk touched it. especially when many of the people saying so, at least the public-facing ones, were either avid supporters of the idea, or of musk's involvement (or in general), or both, for years.
 
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Not sure those are good examples. Tom was in jail, and Wesley's fate had nothing to do with Starfleet. He was a Starfleet washout.

James T. and George S. Kirk? The LaForge family? Of course what's the difference between nepotism and "my family has been in Starfleet for generations"?

I'm quite a talented surgeon. I could fix that hump.

What hump?
 
James T. and George S. Kirk? The LaForge family? Of course what's the difference between nepotism and "my family has been in Starfleet for generations"?



What hump?
nepotism is when you are given your position or breaks because of your family's positions, usually directly by them. following family tradition and going into the same field is not automatically nepotism.
 
Star Trek "drowns in nostalgia" because what has come after TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY have been so bad.

Star Trek needs that nostalgia to go back to basics, get it all together and create something which is good again.
Oh please, spare me.

The worst Star Trek ever made exists in TNG seasons 1 and 2.
 
I have to agree, because logically the E should have been a Galaxy class. The E, as shown, should be regarded as an aberration.

Why?

Because she wasn't typical Starfleet. As in; not being an explorer.

Because a Galaxy class starship, is designed to go out for decades, without worrying the Admiralty back home.

Because writing scripts where the and most powerful ships in the Fleet are too easily targeted and destroyed

This shouldn't be possible. Not for 24th century technology .

The Probert C, is in this same category.

The Enterprise-C of 'Yesterday's Enterprise ', a bit more problematic. This is due to the Phaser Strip load out.
 
I have to agree, because logically the E should have been a Galaxy class. The E, as shown, should be regarded as an aberration.

Why?

Because she wasn't typical Starfleet. As in; not being an explorer.

Because a Galaxy class starship, is designed to go out for decades, without worrying the Admiralty back home.

Because writing scripts where the and most powerful ships in the Fleet are too easily targeted and destroyed

This shouldn't be possible. Not for 24th century technology .

The Probert C, is in this same category.

The Enterprise-C of 'Yesterday's Enterprise ', a bit more problematic. This is due to the Phaser Strip load out.
Huh?
 
I have to agree, because logically the E should have been a Galaxy class. The E, as shown, should be regarded as an aberration.

Why?

Because she wasn't typical Starfleet. As in; not being an explorer.

Because a Galaxy class starship, is designed to go out for decades, without worrying the Admiralty back home.

Because writing scripts where the and most powerful ships in the Fleet are too easily targeted and destroyed

This shouldn't be possible. Not for 24th century technology .

The Probert C, is in this same category.

The Enterprise-C of 'Yesterday's Enterprise ', a bit more problematic. This is due to the Phaser Strip load out.
With whom are you agreeing?
 
With whom are you agreeing?
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Because writing scripts where the and most powerful ships in the Fleet are too easily targeted and destroyed

This shouldn't be possible. Not for 24th century technology .
The three Galaxy class starships which are confirmed destroyed were destroyed under extraordinary circumstances. The Yamato fell victim to an advanced alien computer virus. The Odyssey had another ship ram into it and the Enterprise D was destroyed because the enemy had visual access to everything the chief engineer could see. Not really anything 24th century technology could have done to prevent that.

Well, okay, Geordi probably should have replicated another Visor when he got back, but putting that aside, there was otherwise no preventable measures which could have been taken.
 
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