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Do people under 40 care about Star Trek?

I think the popularity of TNG on Netflix in the 2010s boosted the millennial fanbase.

Paramount should swallow their pride and license their shows on Netflix, while keeping new seasons exclusive. That's how AMC works with Netflix. It's not only a great way to gain more fans, but it can potentially bring those fans over to Paramount+ when they want to catch the latest seasons available.
 
Paramount should swallow their pride and license their shows on Netflix, while keeping new seasons exclusive. That's how AMC works with Netflix. It's not only a great way to gain more fans, but it can potentially bring those fans over to Paramount+ when they want to catch the latest seasons available.

Idk why they don't do this
 
Idk why they don't do this
They're still trying to build up their streaming service. Sub-licensing out their programming to other platforms undercuts the business plan, which is why we're not seeing much crosstalk between the various studio streaming platforms.
 
They're still trying to build up their streaming service. Sub-licensing out their programming to other platforms undercuts the business plan, which is why we're not seeing much crosstalk between the various studio streaming platforms.

that's the issue at heart: does every company needs its own streaming service?
 
Let me offer a foreign perspective. In 2001, Russia's CTC TV channel broadcasted several seasons of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and the first two films. The films later appeared on other channels, while the latest series, "Enterprise," aired on "Domashny" ("Home" channel). However, by the time "The Next Generation" reached our screens, viewers had already appreciated shows like "Lexx" and "Babylon 5." Thus, "Star Trek" became just another American science fiction series for us.

Imagine it's the early 2000s. The excitement over the space race had long faded, the ideals of universal equality were buried with the Soviet Union, and futuristic technologies had become commonplace. By then, the original series' graphics and special effects were outdated even before "Star Wars" premiered.

"The Next Generation" and the films didn't resonate as powerfully with the audience. They were designed for those already familiar with the "Star Trek" universe. Today, the situation is similar, but there are fans.

I remember watching "The Next Generation" when I was little and loving it. When they moved the series from 8 p.m. to around 10 p.m., I still remember asking my father if I could watch it. He said no because I was too young and couldn't stay up that late. I stood in front of the TV, waving at Data on the screen, and said, "Farewell." I was damn certain I would never see him again. Thankfully, the digital world has mostly eliminated these boundaries, and fifteen years later, I was able to watch the entire series.

I know there are more fans out there. I speak with them; we even play forum role-playing games. People older than me used to create quite decent content with fanfiction and forums, but I joined forums too late to be aware and join them when people were actually roleplaying TNG, now I am a loner in this field and switched to solo play.

Most of our fans love the JJ version, which appeals to a relatively young audience. Quite alot adore Discovery and SNW or simply eager to watch any new Star Trek content, because they love Star Trek and want something new. However, I also know there are many who appreciate the original "Trek" series. They just don't have a community or a place to express themselves. These fans are often shy and introverted, I've talked with few people, they moved on but still love it anyway and are glad for the memories... Well, I used to be like that too. It was only a year or so ago that I mustered the courage to reveal my hobby—space ships—beyond my job. I can't abandon what brings me joy, but my journey in this pursuit has been lonely so far. That's why I came here, hoping to find more TNG enthusiasts. However, I'm increasingly puzzled by the foreign fanbase, which I expected to be more... joyful, perhaps. Wherever I go, people seem bitter or angry, which might be another reason why the fanbase is shrinking or retreating into the shadows.
 
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I was also surprised by some of the negativity, though not anymore (same with Star Wars, Marvel, DC, any fandom). a mix of reacting to some mediocre/disappointing/inferior new entries in a series coupled with nostalgia addicts who won't acknowledge some of the new stuff is good/better (Marvel seems to be the worst about hypocritical nostalgia blindness)

from what I can tell, the hostility to any new Trek is almost as old as Trek itself. At least as old as TNG. Modern Trek being stuck behind a paywall and not having as many shows when gen z was growing up didn't exactly help. but excessive hostility, gatekeeping and negativity don't help to grow the fandom
 
that's the issue at heart: does every company needs its own streaming service?
Probably not but that's no longer the question. They've invested a lot of money in these platforms and feel it's leaving money on the table.


Wherever I go, people seem bitter or angry, which might be another reason why the fanbase is shrinking or retreating into the shadows.
Sadly, yes. There is this weird attitude I see within Star Trek fandom that must stick on with content while cursing the content creators. Not sure what is feared by letting go of what you don't enjoy and engaging with what you do.
 
Probably not but that's no longer the question. They've invested a lot of money in these platforms and feel it's leaving money on the table.



Sadly, yes. There is this weird attitude I see within Star Trek fandom that must stick on with content while cursing the content creators. Not sure what is feared by letting go of what you don't enjoy and engaging with what you do.

Remains to be see whether all of those platforms will remain or some will be merged
 
It’s disheartening to see that people often fail to appreciate what they’re defending, even when they have strong guardianship over it. If you care deeply about something, and you’re willing to engage in hours of debate and criticism, shouldn’t you also remember and cherish it? And why not speak positively about it to attract new fans to your beloved show?

Personally, I don’t enjoy the new Star Trek, but I wouldn’t spoil someone’s mood by saying, “Yeah, it’s trash” or “I don’t agree with you at all” in places where people are happy to discuss it and share their love. There’s no need to bring negativity into a situation where positivity is abundant. And I’m sorry to say, but when I look at the TNG subforum, I feel like crying because it’s all about the bad things, the worst things, and the things that bugged you. What happened there? Hypothetically, where should I bring my friends to introduce them to the community, and how can we maintain a positive mood when we don’t have access to most of the books, merch, and games?

As we grow older, we often keep our passions to ourselves to avoid negativity. Millennials in their 30s are busy soothing their inner children and working hard, which leaves little time for bitterness and arguing—two things that are all too common in fandom now.
 
Let's be honest most of the people here want all Trek on Netflix because that way they only need to pay for one Streaming service.

Paramount+ teamed with Netflix at the start to produce ST: D because their original plan was to just have CBS ALL ACCESS be US only.

They thought they could make money Streaming worldwide a few years later and even bought out the Netflix partner contract starting with ST: D S4.

They also started a separate free Streaming service Pluto TV which they say is doing well and they rotate one 'free' season of TOS and the Berman era series on demand there (with commercials) as well as have 'live' Trek channels that continuously show episodes (also with commercials) and a rather large stable of other channels and content. Currently S1 of SNW is available on demand and they also will sometimes show episodes of it on their 'live' Star Trek channels.

So yeah, they are using the Trek library to draw viewers to both Paramount Streaming platforms.

They also are Licensing live channels from Pluto TV to Roku and Amazon Prime's 'live channel' line ups.

Licensing back to Netflix or other Streamers at this time would devalue Paramount's Streaming platforms.
 
They're still trying to build up their streaming service. Sub-licensing out their programming to other platforms undercuts the business plan, which is why we're not seeing much crosstalk between the various studio streaming platforms.
Thing is that Paramount does license their shows. I just checked and found YELLOWJACKETS and SHAMELESS there.

Then of course there’s PRODIGY, but that felt more like a dumping than something that was actually pushed. It certainly wouldn’t get the kind of viewership a live action series would have.
 
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