In your mind, did Kirk do Rand?

[Cicero]

Wow... a thirty-something year old virgin running a starship with 430 crew members and many, many sexy aliens. Yep, it must be sci-fi!

Well, he'd clearly been sexually involved with Carol Marcus (hence their son David) some years earlier. All told, the women we can reasonably presume he had sex with are:

Carol Marcus
Miramanee
Deela
(possibly Antonia)

 

[Christopher]

^^So you think he and Drusilla the slave girl just played checkers all night?

It's a complete non sequitur to assume that a man must be a eunuch just because he's mature and professional enough not to sexually harass his subordinates. It's a safe assumption that Kirk was very sexually active, just not with members of his crew.

 

[Forbin]

Don't forget Odonna. He had to give her that disease thru intimate contact.

Anybody else get ToyFare magazine? They very often include Kirk in their Twisted ToyFare (Mego) Theater, screwing everything in sight (I believe he even nailed an Imperial Probe Droid in one).

 

[Christopher]

Don't forget Odonna. He had to give her that disease thru intimate contact.

No, she was given a transfusion of his blood before he even met her.

 

[Cicero]

Don't forget Odonna. He had to give her that disease thru intimate contact.

Fair point. I've not seen that episode since I was six, so it entirely slipped my mind.

 

[Forbin]

Wait, I swore they did it in Gideon....

 

[Christopher]

Wait, I swore they did it in Gideon....

Kirk and Odona may have "done it," but that wasn't the mechanism for infecting her with his Vegan choriomeningitis, which was clearly stated to be transmitted through the blood. I mean, come on, this was 1968. It was pushing the limits enough for them to allude to contraception in that episode. Making a sexually transmitted disease a vital plot point? I don't think so.

 

[Phoenicianknight]

Wait, I swore they did it in Gideon....

Kirk and Odona may have "done it," but that wasn't the mechanism for infecting her with his Vegan choriomeningitis, which was clearly stated to be transmitted through the blood. I mean, come on, this was 1968. It was pushing the limits enough for them to allude to contraception in that episode. Making a sexually transmitted disease a vital plot point? I don't think so.

Stop it, you are getting my all warm and fuzzy inside.....

 

[Sector 7]

I do not believe her absense was ever addressed on screen. (If it was I missed it) I do remember reading in one of the hundred or so books I have that she had to leave for personal reasons (an unexpected pregnantcy?).

Rand chose to leave Enterprise to attend an unaccredited and somewhat sketchy Transporter Technician trade school.

In TUC she was Sulu's Communications Officer. It was good to see her doing something useful.

 

[Bak_and_Blue]

Anybody else get ToyFare magazine? They very often include Kirk in their Twisted ToyFare (Mego) Theater, screwing everything in sight (I believe he even nailed an Imperial Probe Droid in one).

Oh Jeez, I nearly snorted my tea.

 

[Phoenicianknight]

Anybody else get ToyFare magazine? They very often include Kirk in their Twisted ToyFare (Mego) Theater, screwing everything in sight (I believe he even nailed an Imperial Probe Droid in one).

Oh Jeez, I nearly snorted my tea.

"Snorting Tea"? .....is that legal?

 

[Forbin]

Wait, I swore they did it in Gideon....

Kirk and Odona may have "done it," but that wasn't the mechanism for infecting her with his Vegan choriomeningitis, which was clearly stated to be transmitted through the blood. I mean, come on, this was 1968. It was pushing the limits enough for them to allude to contraception in that episode. Making a sexually transmitted disease a vital plot point? I don't think so.

Ah! Gotcha.

 

[Forbin]

 

[Bak_and_Blue]

Forbin, you're KILLING me!

I need a good laugh in the morning.
Will you marry me?

 

[Swarles Barkley]

I do not believe her absense was ever addressed on screen. (If it was I missed it) I do remember reading in one of the hundred or so books I have that she had to leave for personal reasons (an unexpected pregnantcy?).

Rand chose to leave Enterprise to attend an unaccredited and somewhat sketchy Transporter Technician trade school.

In TUC she was Sulu's Communications Officer. It was good to see her doing something useful.

Certainly a step up from her responsibilities in TSFS (staring out the spacedock window and grimacing at the Enterprise).

 

[Iowagirl]

Kirk definitely did not have an affair with Rand or with any woman under his command. Kirk's womanizing is greatly exaggerated. If you look at the actual record, you see various common themes:

Women who attempt to seduce Kirk, often employing mood-altering methods to induce romantic interest, but still failing to overcome his professionalism (Eve McHuron, Helen Noel, Nona, Elaan).

Women whom Kirk coldly seduces/manipulates as a tactic in the course of doing his job (Lenore Karidian, Andrea, Sylvia, Shahna).

Women Kirk has genuine, deep feelings for but either lost or had to leave in the pursuit of his duty (Ruth, Areel Shaw, Edith Keeler, Miramanee).

This changed somewhat in later seasons, as Kirk was pushed more into the mode of the conventional '60s action hero and given more and shallower entanglements (his liaison with Drusilla the slave girl being the most egregious and out-of-character example). But for the most part, his relationships with women were not what you would see in a womanizer.

There is no way in hell that he had an affair with Rand. He wouldn't even look at her legs until she pathetically begged him to. She practically threw herself at him and got nowhere. His dark, uninhibited half in "The Enemy Within" found her desirable and assaulted her, but the intact James Kirk was a professional, a military man, and he never would've allowed himself to get sexually involved with someone under his direct command.

And Todd is right -- Kirk did not "nail" Helen Noel. They flirted a bit at the party, but nothing else happened, and Kirk was embarrassed to be reminded of the flirtation afterward. It was Helen who implanted the fantasy that they had had a romantic encounter -- which, if you ask me, was a gross breach of her professional ethics, imposing her own sexual fantasies on a patient who was under her care and in a highly suggestible state. It was then Dr. Adams who implanted the idea that Kirk loved Helen -- but in spite of that suggestion, Kirk was rather easily able to overcome his desire for her, resume his professional attitude, and rather coldly send her into a highly dangerous maintenance shaft. If Kirk could so easily shunt aside a conditioned feeling of deep, devoted love in favor of being a hardass commander, then it should be obvious that he would never let his libido overcome his professionalism toward his female crewmates under any circumstances.

Spot-on, Christopher - I agree.

 

[Forbin]

Forbin, you're KILLING me!

I need a good laugh in the morning.
Will you marry me?

First, most importantly, are you female?
Second - does the question mean marrying me will give you a good laugh in the morning?

 

[Sector 7]

Forbin, you're KILLING me!

I need a good laugh in the morning.
Will you marry me?

Ditto! Except for the marrying... you're hetero and it ain't legal here yet anyway...

 

[Bak_and_Blue]

Forbin, you're KILLING me!

I need a good laugh in the morning.
Will you marry me?

First, most importantly, are you female?
Second - does the question mean marrying me will give you a good laugh in the morning?

Yes dear, I am a female. it's me

And it would be a laugh over coffee, later, in the morning
but my husband might object.

 

[Forbin]

Yes dear, I am a female. it's me

And it would be a laugh over coffee, later, in the morning
but my husband might object.

Oh my, yes, very definitely female!

I'm guessing it'd be your husband laughing (maniacally) over my cooling corpse afterward.