In your mind, did Kirk do Rand?

[Forbin]

I forgot it was a hallucination scene too, dammit.

But I'd be sorely disaapointed in the Capt if he didn't give Rand a "parting gift" when she transferred out.

 

[Forbin]

...but in spite of that suggestion, Kirk was rather easily able to overcome his desire for her, resume his professional attitude, and rather coldly send her into a highly dangerous maintenance shaft...

And it takes a true professional to remain stoic in the face of... well...

 

[Christopher]

^^Even aside from that, it amuses me what a cold SOB Kirk is in that scene. "No training in hyper-power circuits? Well, touch the wrong line and you're toast. Off you go now! 'Bye!"

 

[Number_6]

Someone is always doing someone else in my mind, so it's more than probable that Kirk has done Rand in my mind.

 

[Takomaguy]

No. In spite of the evil Kirk attempting to rape her in "Enemy Within" and Kirk pining for her in "Naked Time," I think he was "married" to his ship and what was best for it...being a respectable Captain in front of the eyes of his crew. I always believed in my mind that "Miri" was the last Rand episode where she realizes that Kirk's not going to get involved with her and she probably puts in for a transfer and move on with her life.

Hmmmm...I hate to burst you bubble, but I think he DID rape her.

 

[Forbin]

I recall separate interviews with Patrick McNee and Diana Rigg asking if Steed and Mrs. Peel ever slept together.

Diana said "Oh certainly not! Steed was an impeccable gentleman, he'd never have presumed."

McNee said , "Well of course they did, old boy."

 

[idreamedmusic]

No. In spite of the evil Kirk attempting to rape her in "Enemy Within" and Kirk pining for her in "Naked Time," I think he was "married" to his ship and what was best for it...being a respectable Captain in front of the eyes of his crew. I always believed in my mind that "Miri" was the last Rand episode where she realizes that Kirk's not going to get involved with her and she probably puts in for a transfer and move on with her life.

Hmmmm...I hate to burst you bubble, but I think he DID rape her.

What makes you so sure that he did? I never thought it went any further than Rand scratching Evil!Kirk's face and the ep gives no indication it was anything more.

 

[Christopher]

Hmmmm...I hate to burst you bubble, but I think he DID rape her.

When??? He tried, sure, but then she scratched his face, ran to the door, and told Technician Fisher to call for help. Fisher ran to the intercom with Evil Kirk in pursuit, and Fisher managed to activate the alert button before Kirk reached him and knocked him out. Since security would've responded to the alert within moments, there was no way Evil Kirk would've had time to return to Rand's quarters and finish what he'd started.

 

[DarkHorse]

I think it did happen, but based on The Captain's Daughter (where Rand talks to Sulu about her dead daughter, and her daughter's father), and not on anything in the series proper.

Yeah, that book said an Enterprise officer was the father, strongly implying it was Kirk -- which is why in Ex Machina I made a point of establishing that the officer in question was actually someone else, someone Rand had an affair with after realizing that Kirk would never return her affections. Because I'm sorry, but Jim Kirk just wouldn't have done that. He was too much of a military man, too bound by his duty. The only way it could possibly have happened was if he'd been subjected to some kind of consciousness-altering effect. Because those are the only times he ever got romantic with women directly under his command: when he just plain wasn't himself. When he was split into good and evil halves, or when he was brainwashed into it, or when he was being telekinetically forced into it. (Okay, there was Marlena, but technically Mirror-Marlena wasn't under his command, and we never saw him do more than vaguely flirt with the other Marlena.)

To paraphrase from the movie, A Few Good Men, he would have done every day of the week and twice on Sundays!

Gee, Christopher, you know how to take the fun out of a conversation.

 

[Mr. Fergy]

I don't think so. As randy as Kirk was, he was a professional through and through. She was his Yeoman.
I don't think he'd be capable of "taking advantage" in that way. And I'm sure he'd see it that way no matter how much time had passed or how the circumstances changed over the years.

Agreed. But he wanted to!

 

[Sector 7]

Hmmmm...I hate to burst you bubble, but I think he DID rape her.

When??? He tried, sure, but then she scratched his face, ran to the door, and told Technician Fisher to call for help. Fisher ran to the intercom with Evil Kirk in pursuit, and Fisher managed to activate the alert button before Kirk reached him and knocked him out. Since security would've responded to the alert within moments, there was no way Evil Kirk would've had time to return to Rand's quarters and finish what he'd started.

But we all know the redshirts never get there in time... the fast elevators are only for bridge personnel who wanna have a conversation... redshirts have to run all the way!

 

[Maurice]

Do Rand? Oh please. No.

 

[ladyheather69]

No. I think Kirk was married to his career and "in love" with his ship. Sure, he was probably attracted to her but that doesn't mean he would sleep with her.

 

[A beaker full of death]

Hmmmm...I hate to burst you bubble, but I think he DID rape her.

Might want to watch the show sometime.

 

[Ronald Held]

I thought at that stage, his career came first.

 

[Outpost4]

Of course he didn't. Outside of the EvilKirk's attempted rape, and it's pretty clear it's just attempted, he never even tried, for Rand or any member of the crew. It wouldn't have been professional and Kirk was a Starfleet professional.

 

[erastus25]

I agree with everyone else - looks like Kirk didn't do Rand, with evidence coming from Miri, The Naked Time and The Enemy Within. He also rejected Helen Noel. So, maybe the real question is, was Kirk gay?

 

[Swarles Barkley]

I do not believe her absense was ever addressed on screen. (If it was I missed it) I do remember reading in one of the hundred or so books I have that she had to leave for personal reasons (an unexpected pregnantcy?).

Rand chose to leave Enterprise to attend an unaccredited and somewhat sketchy Transporter Technician trade school.

 

[Red Ranger]

In my mind, Kirk does everyone, even Chekov! But then again, my mind is a dark, twisted place. -- RR

 

[EnsignRicky]

In my mind, I did Rand.