Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[theenglish]

Their marketing team is gonna have to pull off a miracle in the next couple years. Momentum and excitement for these films are all but dead, and there’s no sign F4:FS is going to turn that around.

I would say there is no point in doing the Avengers as big splashy movies at this point. And I've been looking forward to them. The delay is going to hurt Fantastic Four as well--I was just getting excited for the wrap up to this stage of the Marvel movies because I want to see what they do with the X-Men afterward. If it helps speed up production, I would say make Doomsday and Avengers/Fantastic Four movie and get it out sooner.

EDIT: Someone mentioned Spider-Man might still come out on time, so at least there's a summer MCU offer.

But these days most people probably only think about Alec Guinness from "Star Wars." My guess is lots of youngsters never even seen "The Bridge on the River Kwai" "Doctor Zhivago" or "Lawrence of Arabia."

That was kind of my point. Portman doesn't really seem to like the Marvel movies, except maybe the paycheck as she'd rather do something more "cinema". Luckily she's at a different stage in her career than Guinness was so she won't be remembered for being Jane Foster.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That was kind of my point. Portman doesn't really seem to like the Marvel movies, except maybe the paycheck as she'd rather do something more "cinema". Luckily she's at a different stage in her career than Guinness was so she won't be remembered for being Jane Foster.

Isn't her latest project some sort of Indiana Jones style action film with John Krasinski?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Isn't her latest project some sort of Indiana Jones style action film with John Krasinski?

Yup, out on Apple...right now.

I only know this because I literally just watched her interview on Colbert promoting it. Looks like a fun popcorn film, but at home.

 

[fireproof78]

I hope that's sarcasm. He basically saved the last season of "Picard"

He played the greatest hits and hoped we wouldn't notice. It started out good and then used an asshole character to substitute humor, and a mystery box that would make Abrams blush.

I think @Jayson1 was clearly joking with that post.
But then Trekkers find humor a difficult concept.

Comes from not having a sense of humor.

 

[Mage]

I'm fine with the delay. Sure, I want to see these movies, but I'd rather have them take time and deliver a proper product instead of rushing it. If that means delaying Spiderman as well, also a 'it is what it is' situation.
Besides, a small break might be good for the MCU.

 

[theenglish]

We just had a long break though.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm not getting any younger. I don't even want to think about how old I'll be when Secret War comes out.

 

[StarTrek1701]

I hope the long break actually makes the movie better, both on the story and the VFX.

 

[Rich Watson]

I hope the long break actually makes the movie better, both on the story and the VFX.

The long break that just finished didn't do anything for Captain America's story or effects.

 

[Anwar]

Their marketing team is gonna have to pull off a miracle in the next couple years. Momentum and excitement for these films are all but dead, and there’s no sign F4:FS is going to turn that around.

No, after Thunderbolts they "got it back". Especially considering how fickle the "fans" are and how easily they're "It's Dead! No, it's alive!" nowadays.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Especially considering how fickle the "fans" are and how easily they're "It's Dead! No, it's alive!" nowadays.

Hardly. It's only a handful fans who keep saying it's dead while many others are still either enjoying or loving most of the films.

While I recognize I'm in the minority, I think the Multiverse Saga has produced some of the MCU's best films, including No Way Home, Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3, Wakanda Forever, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, and Thunderbolts*. That said, I'm willing to acknowledge that there have been some lackluster films including Eternals, Quantumania, Love and Thunder, and Brave New World, although I want to rewatch Eternals because I think it deserves another fair shake. Of all of the movies from this Saga, the only ones I've found outright disappointing have been Quantumania and Brave New World (the former of which still has some great moments at least).

Again, I know everyone's mileage varies but I still believe fans' reactions to this Saga haven't been quite as fickle as you think, but rather a case of a vocal minority who revels in any blemish in the MCU.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I like that they're focusing on quality rather than quantity again. Disney's obsession with new content during the early days of the streaming wars, and Disney wasn't alone in that regard, resulted in quite a bit of product that felt rushed and not completely thought out. I mean, as a fan, I was excited to hear about all of this Star Wars and Star Trek and Marvel content that would be releasing in such a short period, but as a rational human being I knew that this couldn't sustain itself and that quality would suffer as a result. Recent announcements seem to suggest that they have seen this as well and are changing course to adjust. Good for them. And, ultimately, good for us.

 

[oktay]

Isn't her latest project some sort of Indiana Jones style action film with John Krasinski?

The film also stars Natalie Portman, Jenna Ortega, (she also starred in 2 terrible movies, she needs to change her management company to one that will serve her career better.) Da'Vine Joy Randolph, Sterling K. Brown, Zach Galifianakis, Daniel Brühl, Charli XCX and Catherine Zeta-Jones, and also includes the yet-to-be-released film The Gallerist.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Also in the are Natalie Portman; Jenna Ortega, a young star whose career has taken a terrible downturn in the last two films and whose management company urgently needs to replace her; Da'Vine Joy Randolph, Sterling K. Brown, Zach Galifianakis, Daniel Brühl, Charli XCX and Catherine Zeta-Jones, along with the yet-to-be-released The Gallerist.

Something seems to be lost in translation here.

 

[oktay]

Something seems to be lost in translation here.

I fixed it now.

 

[Christopher]

I fixed it now.

Your "fix" just conveys the same idea slightly less grammatically.

I think what you probably meant to say was that Jenna Ortega needs to replace her management company with one that can serve her career better, rather than that her company needs to replace her, which would imply that she was the one at fault.

 

[oktay]

Your "fix" just conveys the same idea slightly less grammatically.

I think what you probably meant to say was that Jenna Ortega needs to replace her management company with one that can serve her career better, rather than that her company needs to replace her, which would imply that she was the one at fault.

yes.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Their marketing team is gonna have to pull off a miracle in the next couple years. Momentum and excitement for these films are all but dead, and there’s no sign F4:FS is going to turn that around.

It remains to be seen if the FF film will slow the MCU's momentum toward the edge of the cliff, but there's no questioning the poor box-office returns of several MCU films over the past few years, right up to The Thunderbolts*, a film with worldwide earnings--as of 5-22-2025--of $331,705,238, so it recently recovered its production and marketing budget of $280 million, but its actual profit is a limp $51,705,238. When you have Kevin Feige and other Marvel Studios employees stating the following:

Kevin Feige reportedly told Marvel colleagues that watching every new MCU project had begun to feel more like homework than entertainment.

Employees talk regularly about 'Marvel fatigue' and worry they've created a 'no new fans club' — where new viewers have no clue what's going on

...the MCU may be facing a very rough road to travel. The FF needs to be a more than just a major hit in order to fill some of the road's potholes and fissures.