I appreciate Wise's better edit and the glorious finished sound mix.
Star Trek TMP: First Viewing Opinion and Queries
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I appreciate Wise's better edit and the glorious finished sound mix.
The sound mix is one of the things that drives me nuts in the DE. It is so much more bland and less interesting than the theatrical sound mix, IMHO. I also don't like how they did stuff just for the sake of doing it. The mantra was supposedly that they were just finishing the film the way it would have been done in 1979 if they'd had the time. No one in 1979 was looking to insert a TOS shuttlecraft into the film.
Hehe. The 4K edition took things a step further by including the Star Trek V's Galileo style shuttlecraft in the Starfleet headquarters landing area on the bottom left of the San Francisco establishing shot.
Also, no more intrusive male computer voices. I'll always prefer Chekov calling down to engineering asking for reports. Let the crew do the talking!
By chance, is there an image of that somewhere? I think I missed that entirely.
I missed it so much that when I went to look I didn't see it.
It's theoretically been added to the 4K version of the DE, but IMHO it's not actually visible.
It is when they do the panoramic view of San Francisco and see the newly CGI-added Federation Council building on the lefthand side of the screen. There are Galileo-class shuttlecraft docked there, which you can kinda see if you look at the original artist's rendering, but in the actual shot used in the film, they are basically just little dots on the screen. It really is quite a stretch.
You can see photos of both in the "Background Information" section of this Memory Alpha article:
Galileo type shuttlecraft
The Galileo-type shuttlecraft was a shuttlecraft type operated by Starfleet in the 23rd and 24th centuries. This type of shuttlecraft had two nacelles, attached to the sides near the ventral hull with two pylons each, and two impulse thrusters facing aft. These thrusters were above and to the...
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I remember being moved by it in 1979.
TFF is the most Trek. The banter with the Trio, Action Adventure romp on Nimbus, the ship being taken over by aliens, Kirk facing down a God-entity.
Each of the movies is a different facet of TOS.
I decided to have a look as well, calling the 4k up on P+ and didn't see it. I saw the TOS version lifting off from it's pad and heading out into SF Bay (which was in the original DE from 2000) but no sign of a shuttle from TFF.
TFF also gets grief because of the way the supporting characters are used, or not used, sort of being living, breathing props that just help move the main trio's story along. Well, guess what, that's very TOS as well. TVH having been an actual ensemble film where everyone got to do something important was actually the anomaly in that regard.
It may not be popular, but they all had scenes that stood out, that would have worked very well when they were younger on TOS - Sulu and Chekov getting lost in the woods,when they are the navigators; Scotty breaking them out of the brig; Uhura's distracting the natives, which would have been a lot more acceptable when she was younger / in the 60s; the whole "Captain Chekov" bit, and the attempt at giving Scotty and Uhura a romance (which actually, in retrospect, may have started in the final scene of TVH on the shuttlecraft, they seem very close, its very subtle) .... small bit parts, but endearing - like you said, very much in the vein of TOS. Shatner achieved exactly what he set out to do, what he was familiar with - the original style. (big fan of the movie, it was the first one I saw in the theater as a kid. Can never hate it.)
