The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)

[cardinal biggles]

"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability of an unloved season."

This is possibly the greatest line in all of Bond if not all of cinema.

I'm also a big fan of

"Mr. Bond, you defy all my attempts to plan an amusing death for you."

and

"You have arrived at a propitious moment, coincident with your country's one indisputable contribution to western civilization: afternoon tea. May I press you to a cucumber sandwich?"

 

[HIjol]

Drax!!!

F*ing “Cucumber Sandwich” !!!


Before I die, I want an AI HOLOGRAPHIC DRAX to press me to a cucumber sandwich!!!

Excellent!!!

 

[Firebird]

I can't believe y'all are actually making me wanna rewatch Moonraker.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The worst sin in Moonraker was when Bond gets away from the rocket exhaust through a duct network. The second worst sin is saying Jaws and What's-her-face will be OK in their orbiting module.

But a review score is about a weighted average. Even Moonraker has its moments, some already mentioned. The space laser fight is good for being realistic with respect to the high level of attrition suffered by the heroic astronauts. It's, like, super hard to dodge a beam emitted at the speed of light. Also, Bond firing on the reentering satellites is genuinely tense.

P.S. I wince every time I hear the Close Encounters theme in The Spy Who Loved Me Moonraker.

 

[Tallguy]

P.S. I wince every time I hear the Close Encounters theme in The Spy Who Loved Me.

IIRC so does Bond. I find that far less egregious than The Magnificent Seven playing in the score.

Science nerds including well known science fiction in their workplace? Heaven forfend! (Although I gather at the time in real life science that was actually a quick way to get axed. Maybe that's why they went to work for Drax. He put up with this hokum.)

 

[HIjol]

I can't believe y'all are actually making me wanna rewatch Moonraker.

Choose the Danger!!!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

IIRC so does Bond. I find that far less egregious than The Magnificent Seven playing in the score.

Science nerds including well known science fiction in their workplace? Heaven forfend! (Although I gather at the time in real life science that was actually a quick way to get axed. Maybe that's why they went to work for Drax. He put up with this hokum.)

Since there is a rational in-universe explanation for all product placement (Hey, this character likes Lucky Charms), I guess it's poor form to criticize even egregious instances of it? Because, that's exactly what this is.

P.S. Did I mix up which film it was used in? Doesn't matter to my point which was about weighted averages. Anything good or bad can get drowned out by other more important factors. The use of the tune was wince-inducing, but hardly important enough to weigh heavily in whichever film it was used in.

But apologies if I got it wrong. It's been too long since I've seen either film.

 

[Starkers]

Possibly controversial opinion Holly Goodhead has way more agency and is a way better Bond girl than Anya Amasova.

 

[cooleddie74]

Drax is an incredible villain in a goofy movie. I love him and always have.

 

[Tallguy]

Because, that's exactly what this is.

No it's not. Product placement is when you get paid for putting a product in the movie. I cannot imagine that Columbia paid MGM to put the Close Encounters music in the film.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

No it's not. Product placement is when you get paid for putting a product in the movie. I cannot imagine that Columbia paid MGM to put the Close Encounters music in the film.

How did MGM* get the rights, then? Did they pay for the rights? Why in the world would they do that, when they could simply use another tune at no cost? Wouldn't Columbia* granting rights that would normally have to be payed for be a form of payment?

* - or whoever

 

[HIjol]

Since there is a rational in-universe explanation for all product placement (Hey, this character likes Lucky Charms), I guess it's poor form to criticize even egregious instances of it? Because, that's exactly what this is.

P.S. Did I mix up which film it was used in? Doesn't matter to my point which was about weighted averages. Anything good or bad can get drowned out by other more important factors. The use of the tune was wince-inducing, but hardly important enough to weigh heavily in whichever film it was used in.

But apologies if I got it wrong. It's been too long since I've seen either film.

No it's not. Product placement is when you get paid for putting a product in the movie. I cannot imagine that Columbia paid MGM to put the Close Encounters music in the film.

How did MGM get the rights, then? Did they pay for the rights? Why in the world would they do that, when they could simply use another tune at no cost? Wouldn't Columbia granting rights that would normally have to be payed for be a form of payment?

Turns out;

“The producer of the James Bond movies requested special permission from Steven Spielberg to use the five-note melody from his film Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977), in Moonraker (1979) He later returned the favour by letting Spielberg use the James Bond theme in The Goonies (1985).”

 

[cooleddie74]

A long video, but an interesting watch.

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[CorporalCaptain]

Turns out;

“The producer of the James Bond movies requested special permission from Steven Spielberg to use the five-note melody from his film Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977), in Moonraker (1979) He later returned the favour by letting Spielberg use the James Bond theme in The Goonies (1985).”

So they swapped. Thank you. What's the link?

 

[cooleddie74]

This is an incredible piece of the film's score. Isolated and with the dubbed scream and the sound effects removed it's just peak Bond.

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[HIjol]

So they swapped. Thank you. What's the link?

Sorry!
Should have include it!

This and other sources, including MI-5…

BOND: 10 Things You Might Not Know About MOONRAKER

YOUR DESCRIPTION HERE

www.warpedfactor.com

Plus, I did not know they dubbed Corrine Clery!!!

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I can't believe y'all are actually making me wanna rewatch Moonraker.

Same here. Seriously.

 

[HIjol]

A long video, but an interesting watch.

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This was Premium, and I learned about Elevendy new things!!!

 

[Firebird]

Turns out;

“The producer of the James Bond movies requested special permission from Steven Spielberg to use the five-note melody from his film Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977), in Moonraker (1979) He later returned the favour by letting Spielberg use the James Bond theme in The Goonies (1985).”

Now that I'm thinking about it, The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker make two Bond movies in a row where they borrow melodies from Columbia Pictures films - Lawrence of Arabia and CEot3K.

Though, in the case of the former, there is a musical reference to David Lean's Doctor Zhivago as well, so it's probably just happenstance.

 

[HIjol]

Moonraker
“See it again, for the First Time”!!!

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HIjol