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Spoilers Andor - Season 2

Strangely enough, I think Bix dying makes Rogue One less tragic, not more. Cassian's last thoughts as the Death Star is vaporizing him would be "Well, at least I'll be seeing Bix soon."
Fortunately, the SW galaxy doesn't have such silly belief systems. Pretty sure Cassian's final moments were focused on Jyn and their shared sense of accomplishment.
 
I'm actually wondering if we'll see cameos from Sabine, Hera, or Ezra now that we have live action actors for them, although Gilroy doesn't seem the type to engage in that sort of unnecessary fan winking (then again this is the guy who mentioned the Rakata of all things rather obviously TWICE so who knows)
A few fleeting deep cut references in dialogue is a far cry from bringing in characters from different series.

I sincerely hope with all of my might that Tony resists the urge to go down the dreaded Favreau/Filoni route, where every single piece of content must be jammed to the brim with endlessly forced cameos, callbacks and references.

Fortunately, he did none of that in the first season and, in general, his storytelling instincts have proven razor sharp. I can't imagine he'll go that way.

Hell, I hated seen Genevieve O'Reilly pop up in "Ahsoka," because I felt like they were cross-polluting Andor just by using one of its actors in their subpar series.

And the less said about Mary Elizabeth Winstead's atrocious performance as Hera, the better.
 
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I'm honestly impressed at how much they stayed true to the video game incarnation of the Avenger. Not in every design detail or anything--indeed, it's aesthetically only broadly similar--but in the sense that it was always an over-engineered, over-powered, needlessly complicated boondoggle. Even down to the exotic beam weapon, which IIRC was more of a tractor beam based thing in the game, whereas here it seems like just a straight-up miniaturised turbolaser.

I also appreciate that with the Defender project already at least on the drawing board this thing is entirely redundant, because of course a bloated Imperial military industrial complex is going to waste resources on almost identical projects rather than take the efficient route.
Don't Diss the avenger dude. :p

I always picked the avenger over the defender in my tie fighter days.

Defender is to bulky.
 
Fortunately, the SW galaxy doesn't have such silly belief systems. Pretty sure Cassian's final moments were focused on Jyn and their shared sense of accomplishment.
Well that's just wrong.

Starwars has more belief system than we do on earth.
 
So was anybody else as creeped out by Dedra's "smile" as I was when she was figuring out what to wear?
I swooned.
Also, dunno why this stuck in my head, but during the big outdoor meal, I noticed that the girl next to Bix was playing with a homemade AT-ST marionette.
Even Jyn Erso had a stormtrooper doll. It's not that surprising, though it is a little dark.
 
Well that's just wrong.

Starwars has more belief system than we do on earth.
There's no heaven in SW cosmology. Hell, Force Ghosts didn't even exist until Qui Gon invented them.

But ultimately, the most significant difference is that in SW, the supernatural is actually real.
 
There's no heaven in SW cosmology. Hell, Force Ghosts didn't even exist until Qui Gon invented them.

But ultimately, the most significant difference is that in SW, the supernatural is actually real.
Actually Han solo in empire strikes back made a reference to hell.

Either way there are likely millions of belief systems in the starwars universe, some are bound to have after life's, some reincarnation and some nothing at all. In a universe that diverse the idea that no one believes in a life after death is ridiculous.
 
What i completely didn't get and started to fast forward in the third episode was the wedding - what was the point? I barely understood anything going on there, maybe because i lost interest fast and didn't pay attention. Can anyone sum this up in short for me?
The "point" is that Mon Mothma is making increasingly Faustian bargains to keep her fledgling rebellion running. First, she consented to have her daughter married off to the son of a known criminal to get his assistance in hiding her financial support of the rebellion.

But she is continuing to go down a darker and darker path, as she knowingly consented to have her oldest and dearest childhood friend killed because he was becoming a liability.
 
Actually Han solo in empire strikes back made a reference to hell.
True!
Either way there are likely millions of belief systems in the starwars universe, some are bound to have after life's, some reincarnation and some nothing at all. In a universe that diverse the idea that no one believes in a life after death is ridiculous.
I certainly agree. I just thought the OPs comment was fairly ridiculous, that Cassian was thinking "he'd see Bix" during his last moments, making his sacrifice not actually all that tragic.

On a related note, I find it hilarious how orthodox and regimented many fans can be (and Lucasfilm itself can be!) about what is possible or canon within the SW universe. Lucasfilm even has its own silly rules like "there's no paper in Star Wars!" Laughable.

We've seen literally hundreds (at least) of sentient species. Everything can exist somewhere in SW. Think about how vast and diverse our cultures here on one little planet. Multiply that by hundreds or thousands. Every belief exists somewhere. Every aesthetic. Every variation on technology is possible somewhere within the SW galaxy.
 
Fortunately, the SW galaxy doesn't have such silly belief systems. Pretty sure Cassian's final moments were focused on Jyn and their shared sense of accomplishment.
They had the Guardians of the Whills in literally the same movie and a dying Chirrut telling Baze "Look to the Force and you will always find me"...?
I just thought the OPs comment was fairly ridiculous, that Cassian was thinking "he'd see Bix" during his last moments, making his sacrifice not actually all that tragic.
There's no need to get into namecalling, just say you disagree.
 
They had the Guardians of the Whills in literally the same movie and a dying Chirrut telling Baze "Look to the Force and you will always find me"...?
Which was quite obviously metaphorical, not literal. You do "become one with the Force." You don't literally "see" each other again. (Except in rare cases, which don't apply to either Cassian or Chirrut.)
There's no need to get into namecalling, just say you disagree.
And show me exactly where I called you a name.
 
That is not "a name", nor am I calling "you" anything.

Game, set, match...
By saying my comment is ridiculous the implication is that I'm ridiculous. If you want to hide behind semantics, then I've already had my say and I'm not allowing myself to be baited on this anymore.

Back to Andor, I wonder if Blevin will be back.
 
By saying my comment is ridiculous the implication is that I'm ridiculous. If you want to hide behind semantics, then I've already had my say and I'm not allowing myself to be baited on this anymore.

Back to Andor, I wonder if Blevin will be back.
No, it's actually not. We are perfectly allowed to critique others' opinions. That's literally the point of a discussion board.

I'm not allowed to call you an a**hole or make ad hom attacks. There is a world of difference between the two.

All of us are free to express our opinions and often that means criticizing the opinions of others. If you can't see the distinction or can't otherwise handle it, perhaps discussion groups aren't for you.
 
As a longtime Legends fan, while it was nice to see a Sienar facility (it even seems to be a planet, which I think is a new development although it's possible the Sienar family is so powerful they have their own planet), it would be even cooler to see Raith Sienar himself someday in a filmed Star Wars work.
 
Finished the first arc.

Through the first two episodes I had the same issues with pacing and content that others have mentioned, but the third ep seemed to pull it all together for me and left me thinking: "That f'n rocked!"

Loved the reveal of Yavin IV- I did NOT see that one coming, and it helped make a little more sense of what seemed like some fairly nonsensical filler.

Mon Mothma is in hell. You look at the world building for Chandrilla, the beauty of it all, the customs of its people, and she is obviously a prominent person in that society and should be riding high. But she's being pulled down into the Rebellion because like Andor, she just can't tolerate what is happening in the galaxy. But she's not programmed to be a Rebel- she's programmed to be royalty, and she's slowly becoming aware that she's stepping onto the path Luthen has been on for years: one of TOTAL loss and sacrifice. She's beginning to understand what she's going to lose: EVERYTHING. And it's killing her.

The juxtaposition is Luthen's comment to Mon when she pretends not to understand what he is implying: "How nice for you." He knows what has to be done, even though he hates it, and he walks out as oblivious people are celebrating around him- a sunrise of sorts that he doesn't get to see (cannot participate in). Mon can't deal with it yet, so she just gives in for the moment and drowns it all out.

This is deep stuff. Even if it wasn't SW, it would be dark, good, deep stuff.

Couple of side notes: Gotta love the Chandrillan disco ball. Let's get some maidens on the dance floor and get this party started! Very much like how real weddings tend to devolve into a drunken bash when the serious stuff is over with. I'm not usually caring about fashion so much, but that wedding dress?!?!? Dayum, it made me want to marry the girl!

Loved the TIE Avenger. I've smoked many a rebel scum in one although most of the time I'm smoking Imps from an X-wing.

I didn't realize it right away but they left the anxiety droid behind! Poor guy! He's already fearful like an abused dog!

One of Andor's remaining 'people' down, two left. Three arcs to go. It isn't hard to see how this ends, but it is heartbreaking. Makes his speech to Jyn Erso in Rogue One all the more on point. Andor loses everyone along the way, and then loses himself in the end. (Killed on Scarif)

Anyway, we're off to a great start. This is the only REALLY good thing currently going in SW.
 
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