The F**k word in Star Trek
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I am not a big fan of Capaldi's era. That said, this is one of my favorite Doctor Who monologues ever. Simply amazing.
Great actor, but a lot of audiences tuned out between series 8 and 9 and I can only guess the number of reasons, and some of those are more vulgar than all the effenhimers uttered in 21st century Trek combined. I almost stopped watching. Glad I had continued. Wish they had continued too, because series 10 was a return to form and incredibly good for most of its run, with everything coming together. Save for a couple stories, but either which way the return to quality was there...
You've apparently never been in the real military.
"Fucking" is considered the Universal Adjective.
I know that's how it is IRL, right now.
That's not what I want to see out of Professional Services / Officers.
I'm holding them to a "Higher Standard" of dialect & verbiage.
It's the 24th century and beyond, we should be moving past that.
An influence, yes.
A "bad" influence? If it wouldn't get me in trouble here, I'd give you my answer as a former US Coast Guard Petty Officer.
Why?
"You see, in our century, we've learned not to fear words"
-Lt. Nyota Uhura
Why not?
It's called maturation of your linguistic skills.
To grow out of using swear words every other sentence and start talking like a proper sophisticated adult.
It was edgey to talk like that when you're in middle-school or high-school.
It's just cringey to see it on most adults IMO.
Yeah no.
Some of the smartest and most mature people that I've ever known were people who could find a use for the word "fuck" in just about every sentence that came from their mouths.
Beyond people that I knew personally, I can prove you wrong with two words: George Carlin.
Again, I have to question what planet you're living on where adults swearing is seen as some kind of oddity.
Earth, this Dimension, 2025 AD
The vast majority of people I deal with don't swear regularly.
Well then I guess I'm the one living on Planet Fuckadoria, because people certainly swear plenty around me, and it's almost always adults.
That's an anecdotal observation that leaves out almost the entire population.
I don't have time to deal with the entire population.
I have to deal with what's in front of me in my daily life.
I guess so. That's the world you live in.
I wonder if you take a poll of the vast majority of Trek Fans on this issue, I'm pretty sure most won't want swearing in Trek.
Who fucking knows. The one thing I do know is that Trek characters are always better when they come off as normal people. Sure, they may be off on some Galaxy spanning adventure, but at their core, they're just regular people.
They wake up.
They take a shit.
They drink a cup of coffee.
They go to work.
They save the day.
They come home.
They have a drink.
They go to bed.
The Original Series was like this. The cast felt like actual people. Some were more exaggerated than others, sure. But in the end they felt like living, breathing people.
Strange New Worlds understands this and has done a respectable job of making the characters come off people, with real people problems and issues. That's why it's great.
Even Enterprise understood this and tried to make the cast more relatable. If they succeeded is up for debate, but there was an effort.
It was the 24th century shows that decided that every human character needed to have a stick shoved so far up their ass that they could moonlight as a scarecrow.
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As a major fan of the 24th century shows, I don't feel a need to use profanity every other sentence.
So maybe that's just who I am and it appeals to me.
All of this.
Then don't generalize about what's true of people while citing only your limited personal experience as evidence.
The world's much bigger than your life and there are ways to learn what's going on beyond what you see and hear in your corner of it.
From everything I see and hear in daily life, I don't hear excessive swearing amongst the general populace that I interact with.
Obviously there are shows & some people who are like that, but it isn't the norm to hear people swear like crazy.
I never advocate for "every other word."
I don't think swearing represents a less evolved language or maturity of the person.
I don't think swearing represents a less evolved language or maturity of the person.
Come on. You deliberately use odd spellings like "StarFleet". So it's hard to take you seriously on this
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