They have whole training on it and decorations. So what is that for?
Read Space Cadet.
There's no need to say something isn't Trek that though.
The F**k word in Star Trek
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Like the old Pro Wrestling adage goes: "Less is More!".
So everybody is going to have their own take on it.
What people perceive as "Trek-like" will vary, especially with this specifc subject matter.
So we've all said our piece on it, lets move on.
Obviously there are major divides on this subject.
So everybody is going to have their own take on it.
What people perceive as "Trek-like" will vary, especially with this specifc subject matter.
So we've all said our piece on it, lets move on.
An opinion not based on what we see in the show
I just am curious what makes the specific circumstances so poor in Trek?
Is it that it occurs in Trek at all? Because that's my biggest objection because it's a part of human cultural history.
Many fans, not all of them obviously, just don't want to see it in Trek.
We've moved past using boor-ish profanity in the future.
Why? Why the snobbery and elitism over language?
It's not snobbery or elitism, we've just moved on.
It is because it's described as "boorish" without giving an adequate reason why when swear words are still used.
ETA: here's a quick reference to all the "boorish" words used in Star Trek.
Profanity
Profanity was slang language, such as a curse word or swear word, or a physical expression, such as "the finger", that was intended to emphasize derision, curses, or other emotional outbursts that may also be otherwise recognized as colorful metaphors. Although such usages were uncommon in the...
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There's ALOT more Profanity in Trek than what most people think.It is because it's described as "boorish" without giving an adequate reason why when swear words are still used.
ETA: here's a quick reference to all the "boorish" words used in Star Trek.
Profanity
Profanity was slang language, such as a curse word or swear word, or a physical expression, such as "the finger", that was intended to emphasize derision, curses, or other emotional outbursts that may also be otherwise recognized as colorful metaphors. Although such usages were uncommon in the...
Despite this people still like it...
Because it's not "Over Done".
Remember how many years of Trek there is, how many total hours of Trek Content.
And the list is only that long.
The old adage of "Less is More" rings true.
Current Estimate is that there is about ~837.5 hours of combined Trek time or 34.9 days of continuous time to watch all of Trek in it's Entirety.
Humor is also lost sometimes in Trek.
But, yes, in Trek swearing is not overdone which why the objection over one word feels very selective in the outrage because Trek hasn't become like a Tarantino film.
But, I'll just leave with TOS exchange that makes me less concerned about words.
UHURA: But why should I object to that term, sir? You see, in our century we've learned not to fear words.
KIRK: May I present our communications officer, Lieutenant Uhura.
LINCOLN: The foolishness of my century had me apologising where no offense was given.
KIRK: We've each learned to be delighted with what we are. The Vulcans learned that centuries before we did.
SPOCK: It is basic to the Vulcan philosophy, sir. The combination of a number of things to make existence worthwhile.
Humor is also very subjective.
We have a very diverse range, age, experiences, & opinions as to what is humorous to us.
And boorish words.
On Occaision only.
When I do try to write, I like to make people sound like people sound in RL. I have one story where I used my friends as the characters (names changed to protect the silly), and one of my friends was a fountain of creative cursing, to the point of having us in stitches. Makes for some fun moments, and some deadly serious moments, and some levity during a serious moment.
On the real side, one of my old schoolmates once posted a meme that the NRA is a terrorist organization. Well, as a member, and as an employee of a US DoD military contractor who would lose his job if such a thing were true, I was little sensitive about that. I told her hey, I love ya, but f*k right off with that sh*t! I got one of her other friends lecturing me that profanity was the resort of the base and uneducated blahblahblah. And Donna was such a sweet soul who didn't deserve to hear such language blahblahblah. Dude, I went to school with her. She's from Nutley, NJ. She can swear like a f*kin' sailor.
On the real side, one of my old schoolmates once posted a meme that the NRA is a terrorist organization. Well, as a member, and as an employee of a US DoD military contractor who would lose his job if such a thing were true, I was little sensitive about that. I told her hey, I love ya, but f*k right off with that sh*t! I got one of her other friends lecturing me that profanity was the resort of the base and uneducated blahblahblah. And Donna was such a sweet soul who didn't deserve to hear such language blahblahblah. Dude, I went to school with her. She's from Nutley, NJ. She can swear like a f*kin' sailor.
Hey!
So then, anecdote time, circa the 1980s.
'Swear like a sailor.'
A cliche both true and not true.
True, because our conversations were definitely laced with words polite society considered vulgar.
And not true, because most of those instances were inane and idiomatic*, more akin to a Canadian's eh or a Southerner's y'all than actually swearing. More of a just-the-way-we-talked kind of thing.
The usage was also nuanced, freely done in one's shop and off-duty but almost never when duty and decorum were involved—like watchstanding, where our communication was to be clear, concise, and precise.
And my transition to civilian life did involve cleaning up my word usage, because I did receive strong negative feedback from friends, family and employers alike.
Now, it's only the idiot drivers in the town that bring those words out of storage.
As for its usage in Trek, I find it to be anachronistic. But that's just me.
*(A common one on the ship was fuckin' a, which was used to indicate agreement in the same manner as right on, you bet, or absolutely.)
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