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The F**k word in Star Trek

I'd rather them avoid swearing if possible.

Use only in extreme situations, and very sparingly please.

Especially from anybody in the UFP Government / Uniformed Services.

It's a civilian that should be swearing, not Professional Officers or Government Officials IMO.
 
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Subtle, no?

Apparently, it can't be used while in Spacedock as well, thus proving nothing is wheelbarrowed into the galley to make dinner out of:

 
Admiral Sheer Fucking Hubris is an example of swearing completely changing the tone of a scene. Maybe we were supposed to find it funny, they were almost certainly going for comedy when she told him to shut the fuck up at the end of the season, but in the moment it was so jarring that she became an instant meme.
 
I agree with Newt. It's like nails on a chalkboard to hear it on a Star Trek show.

If one must use it, context is key. In Picard, Vadic's last words shocked for comedic and ironic effect. However, Stewart's ad lib in recalling his "ten f:censored:g grueling hours" in a shuttlecraft in season 3 felt incredibly lazy and unnecessary. Dim the lights, don the leather, and drop the F-bomb so that everyone knows we're edgy now.
 
"Enterprise" coyly and/or maturely discusses their version of replicators, even though TOS arguably had no such thing (only one scene vaguely hints at the possibility and yet TOS always had a galley which indicates the opposite, but the ENT scene feels like it's addressing TNG technology and forgetting that TOS existed, save for the yellow color piping -- it's all another reason to dislike prequels, but before I digress...), "Discovery" just puts it out tactlessly - ironic since it wants to take itself seriously and not reenact a few hundred "Red Dwarf" jokes involving "urine recyc" and so on, which is based on filtration that is used in places in real life, which is likely where "Enterprise" got its idea from as well. Difference is, a glorified coffee filter isn't quite the same thing as molecular pattern altering, and that is utterly nothing like a "3D printer" either, apart from a very loose association involving too many indirect correlations, so it's not comparing apples to apples but there I go again...
It's a recon. Even in the 23rd century, Discovery had replicators and Strange New Worlds' literally say "replicator" on the device.
 
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I've been of two minds regarding swearing in Trek. I felt the dropping of F-bombs by Tilly and Stamets in DIS was extremely forced, cringe-worthy, and done simply to say "Hey, kids, we can drop F-bombs now!" On the other hand, I felt Fleet Admiral Clancy's use of F-bombs in PIC drove home a strong dramatic point and showed she wasn't above throwing Starfleet decorum out the fucking window.
 
I've been of two minds regarding swearing in Trek. I felt the dropping of F-bombs by Tilly and Stamets in DIS was extremely forced, cringe-worthy, and done simply to say "Hey, kids, we can drop F-bombs now!"
You're correct on that feeling IMO.

On the other hand, I felt Fleet Admiral Clancy's use of F-bombs in PIC drove home a strong dramatic point and showed she wasn't above throwing Starfleet decorum out the fucking window.
It was definitely better used in that scene.

I still would've preferred that she didn't use such language.

They're both adults in the 24th century, we should be moving past such crass language.

Like Captain America says: "Language!"
 
Admiral Sheer Fucking Hubris is an example of swearing completely changing the tone of a scene. Maybe we were supposed to find it funny, they were almost certainly going for comedy when she told him to shut the fuck up at the end of the season, but in the moment it was so jarring that she became an instant meme.

I think we were supposed to feel uncomfortable. It's our first visit to Starfleet in the series; bright, sunny day, Goldsmith on the soundtrack, Picard looking wistful. We're home.

Then the rug gets pulled out from under us; things have changed and we're not in Kansas anymore. Picard feels old and alienated.
 
They're both adults in the 24th century, we should be moving past such crass language.

Like Captain America says: "Language!"
Nah, fuck that. It's the 24th century, people should be giving far less of a shit over people using any particular exclamations in moments of intense emotion.

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It's a civilian that should be swearing, not Professional Officers or Government Officials IMO.
I've known a few Government officials and Military Officers in my day. I can assure that they swear more than the average citizen. I have a cousin who retired a Major and I learned words from him back in the day that were far worse than anything we'll ever hear in Star Trek.
They're both adults in the 24th century, we should be moving past such crass language.
Fuck this nonsense. People swear. The more they tried to make Star Trek characters less like actual human beings, the less interesting they got.
 
I'd rather them avoid swearing if possible.

Use only in extreme situations, and very sparingly please.

Especially from anybody in the UFP Government / Uniformed Services.

It's a civilian that should be swearing, not Professional Officers or Government Officials IMO.
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Professionals do this in RL, including the military and government officals...
 
I've known a few Government officials and Military Officers in my day. I can assure that they swear more than the average citizen. I have a cousin who retired a Major and I learned words from him back in the day that were far worse than anything we'll ever hear in Star Trek.
Are they doing that in the context of Professional Work?
Or are they doing that in their "Off-Hours" between family & friends?

Fuck this nonsense. People swear. The more they tried to make Star Trek characters less like actual human beings, the less interesting they got.
Some people do swear, that's for sure. But what makes Star Trek characters less like actual human beings?
Because they manage to control their tongue and not spout Foul Language all the time?

I try to control my tongue and use foul language sparingly, obviously I use it some time.
But I see most people in 'Professional Settings' try to avoid "Foul Language", that's what it means to be "Professional" IMO.
 
I definitely agree. It's fine when it's relatively mild, but when they're dropping F-bombs it makes the dialogue feel a bit too contemporary. It breaks the spell a little bit.

Then again Lower Decks has half of T'Ana's dialogue bleeped out and she's awesome, so I guess there are always exceptions.

Bleeped swearing is generally funnier than non-bleeped swearing. Part of the way humor works is twisting expectation and anticipation, and hiding the bad word at the same time you're saying it is a way hot-wire that reflex.

Plus, she could be using words so baroquely taboo and profane that our limited, parochial 21st century society doesn't even understand them conceptually.

Meh. People swear. People always will swear. I don't care how enlightened we get as a species, sometimes there is no more optimal word for a situation than fuck. If Scotty hit his thumb with a hammer, I'd expect to hear a lot worse.

Case in point: What in God's name is a "bogus frat"? When will humanity have advanced to the point that we can understand the elegant subtlety of Scotty's favorite swear?
 
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