Bret could be a female. There's the actress Brett Somers, who was married to Jack Klugman.
Geordie's wife and kids in "All Good Things" vs. "Picard"
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True. Had a childhood friend, his name was "Brett". So kind of a default for me.
Small world. I went to school with someone named "Brett". He was on the soccer team with my brother.
So, I have some head-canon regarding this. Your mileage may vary.
In "Galaxy's Child" Brahms is testier than usual because her home life isn't great. The calls from her husband aren't loving, doting contacts, but increasingly desperate attempts to smooth or repair a faltering marriage. Both of them are trying to make it work, but it's not easy and they are, in the next few years perhaps, going to eventually go their separate ways.
She was (quite naturally and appropriately) outraged when she discovered the earlier holodeck program, and Geordi didn't exactly handle that whole episode well, but he didn't have some extended, perverse obsession with the holo version of her either. He just got caught up in a moment one time on the holodeck, which clearly has a default setting for pornography. So many holodeck NPCs are kinda horny so it makes sense that the computer thought "personality" for holo-Brahms should be that way. Real-Brahms gets it after she thinks about it a little and she and Geordi laugh about it.
In the Anti-Time Future in "All Good Things..." Geordi and Leah Brahms got back in touch sometime after Season Seven and her divorce was final. She found him charming in the end of their last encounter and eventually fell for him as he starts to pursue creative writing. They have three kids. She names Brett after her father or whoever and Geordi always liked the names Sidney and Alandra.
But that is just one possible future. In the "real" future of Picard, Geordi and Leah only remained friends. Geordi stays in Starfleet this time and becomes a Commodore in charge of Starfleet Museum and met and married someone else and had two kids. He suggested the names Sidney and Alandra and his wife liked the sound of them, too. These kids have a different mother from Leah's kids in the ATF, just the same names from their father.
Geordi has a whole third future seen in Voyager where he's a starship captain. He may or may not have any kids in this version, and may or may not be involved with Leah or any other woman.
--Alex
In "Galaxy's Child" Brahms is testier than usual because her home life isn't great. The calls from her husband aren't loving, doting contacts, but increasingly desperate attempts to smooth or repair a faltering marriage. Both of them are trying to make it work, but it's not easy and they are, in the next few years perhaps, going to eventually go their separate ways.
She was (quite naturally and appropriately) outraged when she discovered the earlier holodeck program, and Geordi didn't exactly handle that whole episode well, but he didn't have some extended, perverse obsession with the holo version of her either. He just got caught up in a moment one time on the holodeck, which clearly has a default setting for pornography. So many holodeck NPCs are kinda horny so it makes sense that the computer thought "personality" for holo-Brahms should be that way. Real-Brahms gets it after she thinks about it a little and she and Geordi laugh about it.
In the Anti-Time Future in "All Good Things..." Geordi and Leah Brahms got back in touch sometime after Season Seven and her divorce was final. She found him charming in the end of their last encounter and eventually fell for him as he starts to pursue creative writing. They have three kids. She names Brett after her father or whoever and Geordi always liked the names Sidney and Alandra.
But that is just one possible future. In the "real" future of Picard, Geordi and Leah only remained friends. Geordi stays in Starfleet this time and becomes a Commodore in charge of Starfleet Museum and met and married someone else and had two kids. He suggested the names Sidney and Alandra and his wife liked the sound of them, too. These kids have a different mother from Leah's kids in the ATF, just the same names from their father.
Geordi has a whole third future seen in Voyager where he's a starship captain. He may or may not have any kids in this version, and may or may not be involved with Leah or any other woman.
--Alex
Spent many an afternoon with her and her friends.
That Brett?
Was going to start a new thread about Sidney. But might be better better of here.
Its implied she has this strained relationship that she became a pilot and helmsman and not an engineer. I didn't get that as Geordie was also the helmsman in s1 of TNG. Surely that mirror his career?
Its implied she has this strained relationship that she became a pilot and helmsman and not an engineer. I didn't get that as Geordie was also the helmsman in s1 of TNG. Surely that mirror his career?
Yeah, though I was not creeped out about him falling in love with a simulation of her I was very annoyed that he acted like, well , not to mince words, a jerk when she would not reciprocate in reality. Other than that, I was fine with it. It Sci Fi so it's not gonna have a regular approach to relationships all the time. They may have just wanted to show off their holoprogram for all I know. I remember him telling Barclay that he ONCE fell in love in there as a cautionary tale. I think the whole Leah thing was more to give him a happy ending than naming some random woman.
Definitely. Mentioning “Leah” was meant as a deep cut reference for long-time viewers of the show. And as such I appreciated it. At least mentioning “Leah” meant something, when a random name wouldn’t. And as I said, as long as this basically was just some “dream scenario” I didn’t mind it, but if this was some actual storyline on the show, I would find it weird that they would make them a couple after she had rejected him in the earlier episode. Not impossible, of course, but I don’t really like it.
So was her name's inclusion influenced by a vague remembrance of Picard's mind, or Q's observations of the crew?
Yes, that is a head scratcher. Both daughters have taken up positions he once held. She should have gone into security or medicine to truly “rebel.”
I never thought Leah from AGT was Leah Brahms. And I also don't think that "prime Leah" is his wife in PIC. In both instances it would have been just too creepy.
That said, it's important to note that in AGT it's actually Picard who first mentions the name Leah, and Geordi doesn't correct him. It is entirely possible that Geordi's wife wasn't named Leah at all, but Geordi (who obviously knew that Picard was suffering from advanced Irumodic Syndrome) just decided not to say anything, out of respect for his old friend.
As for PIC....let's just say this. I'll put it in spoilercode so I don't ruffle any PC feathers.
That said, it's important to note that in AGT it's actually Picard who first mentions the name Leah, and Geordi doesn't correct him. It is entirely possible that Geordi's wife wasn't named Leah at all, but Geordi (who obviously knew that Picard was suffering from advanced Irumodic Syndrome) just decided not to say anything, out of respect for his old friend.
As for PIC....let's just say this. I'll put it in spoilercode so I don't ruffle any PC feathers.
Geordi's daughters do not look like they had a white mother.
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Not like she was working in quark's as a dabo girl. Helmsman of starship is very respectable.
Everyone debating Geordie marrying Leah Brahms, keep one thing in mind: Earth in the 24th Century is a utopia where dangerous psychos aren't a thing anymore. A breach of boundaries is just that. Leah was pissed at Geordie for his disrespect of her boundaries, but probably not worried he was in anyway dangerous. Hence her possibly being able to forgive him after he learns to act his age and be more respectful.
I'm not saying I'd ever be OK with it. Just that i can believe why Leah might be.
I'm not saying I'd ever be OK with it. Just that i can believe why Leah might be.
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Far as I'm concerned, the only thing Geordi did wrong in that whole debacle was that he didn't immediately delete the hologram once the real Brahms came aboard.
Hell, it wasn't even his idea to create the hologram in the first place! That was all the computer's doing! All Geordi did was update its psychological profile to match the real Brahms so that it would be easier to talk to. One would hope that the real Brahms would accept this explanation.
That said, I do wonder why the holo-Brahms was so much nicer than the real one. Apparently the psych records on her weren't too terribly accurate...but again, that's not Geordi's fault.
Hell, it wasn't even his idea to create the hologram in the first place! That was all the computer's doing! All Geordi did was update its psychological profile to match the real Brahms so that it would be easier to talk to. One would hope that the real Brahms would accept this explanation.
That said, I do wonder why the holo-Brahms was so much nicer than the real one. Apparently the psych records on her weren't too terribly accurate...but again, that's not Geordi's fault.
Is that how he built holo-Leah? Why would Geordi have access to psych records?
I misspoke. Much apologizings. 
Actually they were records of some kind of debate tournament that Dr. Brahms had recently participated in.
Actually they were records of some kind of debate tournament that Dr. Brahms had recently participated in.
Personally, I still argue the ship's computer was using the Brahms holoprogram to express its fondness for Geordi in a way comprehensible to a human, but the nuances got lost in translation and he never realized that the character was a persona the Enterprise was putting on and not a fully faithful recreation of Leah Brahms. It's not like the ship's computer and the holodeck haven't interfaced in peculiar ways before, like with Minuet or Moriarty.
Come on, "I'm with you every day, Geordi. Every time you look at this engine, you're looking at me. Every time you touch it, it's me"? Seems to me Geordi is just as bad at picking up subtext from machines as he is with people. That's not even subtext. It's super-text.
Come on, "I'm with you every day, Geordi. Every time you look at this engine, you're looking at me. Every time you touch it, it's me"? Seems to me Geordi is just as bad at picking up subtext from machines as he is with people. That's not even subtext. It's super-text.
Ah, I didn't remember that little factoid that she was married, all right. But yeah, could have played out in innocent ways, too. Quite possibly they divorced because their marriage hit rock bottom (nothing to do with Geordi) or the husband died (well, that's only innocent when assuming his death had nothing to do with Geordi
Oh I remember it well. She was also cold and distant to geordi becayse she felt he ruined her enterprise engine's. It all culminated in the penultimate scene when geordi realizedsdhe was in the holodeck reviewing his program from booby trapped. He ran to the holodeck as fast as he could and walked in at the worat moment when she realized what geordi was up to. It was so funny. Some video clips below should remind you what happened. Geordi made anything barkley did in the holodeck look innocent.
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