Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?

[Gingerbread Demon]

It first came out last year:

Picard film in development

https://trekmovie.com/2024/01/05/patrick-stewart-reveals-new-star-trek-movie-script-featuring-jean-luc-picard-is-in-the-works/ With the third and final season of Star Trek: Picard a success, Sir Patrick Stewart is still thinking about what could be next. Even before the final season debuted the...

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Well let's see if it goes ahead

 

[BillJ]

Well let's see if it goes ahead

Stewart isn’t getting any younger.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It will come out right after the Khan mini-series.

 

[Dukhat]

We’ll find out in exactly five days if CBS/Paramount will ever make a movie again.

 

[Quantum21]

Your best chance of Legacy is a TV movie. Watch Section 31 a lot and the chances of Legacy go up exponentially.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Chances of it being terrible go up as well.

 

[Dukhat]

Your best chance of Legacy is a TV movie. Watch Section 31 a lot and the chances of Legacy go up exponentially.

That would depend on how the powers that be equate the utter failure of the Section 31 movie as a reason never to make TV movies again, or make TV movies that aren’t just badly-written-and-acted self-indulgent vanity projects for overrated actors playing really horrible over-the-top characters.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Your best chance of Legacy is a TV movie. Watch Section 31 a lot and the chances of Legacy go up exponentially.

I found the once to be sufficient.

 

[AntonyF]

That would depend on how the powers that be equate the utter failure of the Section 31 movie as a reason never to make TV movies again, or make TV movies that aren’t just badly-written-and-acted self-indulgent vanity projects for overrated actors playing really horrible over-the-top characters.

You forgot option 3... you can always blame... TOXIC FANDOM™. Star Wars has been a trailblazer on this one, and it's been adopted by Trek with some success.

 

[Dukhat]

You forgot option 3... you can always blame... TOXIC FANDOM™. Star Wars has been a trailblazer on this one, and it's been adopted by Trek with some success.

There’s a difference between toxic fandom spewing nonsense on Facebook & YouTube comments sections, and legitimate review sites panning the movie.

 

[Paul Weaver]

There’s a difference between toxic fandom spewing nonsense on Facebook & YouTube comments sections, and legitimate review sites panning the movie.

Sean Ferrick from Trekculture is always positive about trek, pretty much the only trek on youtube I watch short of actual clips (just avoid the top-10 spam videos). It's full of positiveness. If anything they're too gushing with their ups+downs. Sub Rosa and Threshold both had more "ups" than "downs".

I had a quick skip to the end of their review to avoid any spoilers but see the final score. It was not good.

 

[Mudd]

Doesn't look like a lot of Trek movies for streaming on the horizon.

 

[The Wormhole]

Unfortunate. While Section 31 was flawed to be mild about it, streaming movies could have provided an avenue for unique Star Trek stories that needed to be longer than an episode but weren't enough to be a season arc.

Ah well.

 

[Danja]

You would have P+ bin an entire format simply because ONE movie didn't work out.

They may not be making any more S31 films, but I can't see them throwing out movies altogether.

 

[The Wormhole]

You would have P+ bin an entire format simply because ONE movie didn't work out.

I can kind of see the logic behind it. Star Trek's popularity at the moment is from the streaming shows. Indeed, the main reason Section 31 went ahead as a streaming movie is because Michelle Yeoh's schedule didn't permit her to commit to a series. If Section 31 were a hit it might have opened the door to further streaming movies, but since it wasn't it'll likely mean Paramount+ will continue to focus on TV shows since they know Star Trek works in that format.

 

[Danja]

I can kind of see the logic behind it. Star Trek's popularity at the moment is from the streaming shows. Indeed, the main reason Section 31 went ahead as a streaming movie is because Michelle Yeoh's schedule didn't permit her to commit to a series. If Section 31 were a hit it might have opened the door to further streaming movies, but since it wasn't it'll likely mean Paramount+ will continue to focus on TV shows since they know Star Trek works in that format.

Not everything is amenable to a series.

By and large, it's cheaper to do a one-off movie than a multi-season series .

S31 was in development for seven years (it went from being a series to a limited series to a movie). It's an extreme situation.

A movie would attract talent who can't commit to a series.

 

[AntonyF]

Unfortunate. While Section 31 was flawed to be mild about it, streaming movies could have provided an avenue for unique Star Trek stories that needed to be longer than an episode but weren't enough to be a season arc.

Ah well.

Yeah. And when will they learn it doesn't need to be huge budget?

What are the episodes that are routinely held up as the best? Measure of a Man. Drumhead. Duet. In the Pale Moonlight. All bottle shows.

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

What are the episodes that are routinely held up as the best? Measure of a Man. Drumhead. Duet. In the Pale Moonlight. All bottle shows.

Only your DS9 examples are bottle shows. Both TNG examples featured scenes off the ship in courtrooms, so they're not strictly speaking "ship in a bottle" shows, the term that got shortened to "bottle shows".

 

[Daedalus]

Not everything is amenable to a series.

By and large, it's cheaper to do a one-off movie than a multi-season series .

S31 was in development for seven years (it went from being a series to a limited series to a movie). It's an extreme situation.

A movie would attract talent who can't commit to a series.

I think we just need to see the numbers. I don't know what system they use to calculate the ROI, but if it made money then there's bound to be more. Poor ratings aren't the death knell they used to be, after all.

A series probably keeps people around a lot longer and therefore they pay more towards the service.

Talent though, that's a fair point. Its not easy to commit a big name to a series.

 

[AntonyF]

Only your DS9 examples are bottle shows. Both TNG examples featured scenes off the ship in courtrooms, so they're not strictly speaking "ship in a bottle" shows, the term that got shortened to "bottle shows".

You're not wrong but they had limited new sets, and you get my point without arguing semantics. They were relatively low budget.