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Spoilers Section 31 General Discussion Thread

A Section 31 series. Yay or nay?

  • Yay, a Section 31 series!

    Votes: 80 40.0%
  • Nay, give us anything else instead!

    Votes: 120 60.0%

  • Total voters
    200
The Klingons looked like Klingons.
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Terminator 3, Salvation and Genisys practically got removed from canon due to bad reception. The nonsensical and confusing timeline were just a bonus. Dark Fate tried to pull it back together.
Which itself was very poorly received. For the most part. It only hasn't been ignored yet because the franchise is lightly sleeping right now. ;)

Same applies to Highlander II which got canonically discarded due to its overall crappiness.
But was then followed by the crappy Highlander III. Which was then ignored by the crappier Endgame. The Source may or may not contradict Endgame, it is such an awful movie I cannot commit much of it to memory.

Today, even the responsible executives regard The Exorcist II as non canon. The reason was yet again bad reception.
The Exorcist has many "ignored" sequels, not just II.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Halloween, that franchise is chock full of ignored movies. ;)
 
I know you realise that 99% of fans see that chart like this:

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Which does not make it any more accurate.

The Klingons have huge variety, never mind what I have seen in the comics over the years. I'd rather have something like Discovery and Kelvin over the ughly lumps of TMP, or the oddball of Kruge and Klaa.
 
There have really only been three types of Klingons: the TOS versions, the TMP/STIII/TNG versions, and the DSC versions. Any others were just variations of one of those three types.

I was thinking of Cho but he could also play Prime Sulu IMO. It doesn't have to be Kelvinverse Sulu not that I would mind that idea.

The thing is that the people who actually wanted a Captain Sulu show, wanted Takei. Even if those same people still want that show, I would think that having Cho play the character now would defeat the purpose of a Captain Sulu show, which was for it to be a vehicle for Takei.

But that’s all moot, because I don’t see CBS giving Cho a Star Trek show, much less Takei.
 
Now I’m just seeing the same guy with different tans and haircuts (and one pic where he got punched in the face repeatedly.)
 
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To me most of those looks are basically the same with a few small details. The only big differences are the TOS ones with no ridges and Discovery where they went to far and made them orcs. I mean I don't mind giving them a extra penis and some pointy ears but you see need to stay in the ball park of what we fist saw in the TOS movies and made better on the Berman era shows. I also don't mind them changing outfits and new weapons and would love to see them explore more than just their warrior side. We did see some of that start on DS9 when we saw Klingon cooks and Lawyers and Martok was basically a working class guy and not from some noble fancy house. But if they look they are about to fight for Sauron then one has gone to far.
 
I'm far from the biggest fan of Discovery, but you speak of it like it was some colossal disaster. It got 5 seasons in the age of streaming, that's nothing to scoff at. It also scored two spin-off series and a spin off film. By pretty much any metric, Discovery was a roaring success.
To say nothing of the fact that every Trek series of the 2020s owes its existence to Disco. If Disco was was really considered a failure, there's no way we would have gotten Picard, Lower Decks or Prodigy either. Dare I even be so bold to point out that if Disco really were considered a failure, the Trek fandom never would have received the "divine gift" of the Lord Terry Matalas and his third season of Picard.

But, no, no, of course, the characters cry, the Klingons look weird, it does not embrace 1960s production values and it treats its lead character as the center of the universe. It is therefore of course The Absolute Worst and has eternally damned the Trek franchise.
 
So I'm sitting here at work, looking for a podcast to listen to while I toil away. Unfortunately, most things I listen to still haven't come back from the holidays. One thing that I do see is the Inglorious Treksperts have a podcast about the best "war episodes of Star Trek." OK, what the hell, I'll give it a listen, nothing else to really listen to.

Right off the hop I find out that pompous asshole Robert Meyer Burnett is on. Ok, there's a notch against it. What proceeded was a solid 20 minutes of them gleefully declaring Discovery and SNW to be removed from the canon thanks to Lower Decks. It may have went on, I switched it off. The sound of machines blaring in my ears is a better alternative.

I mean, these assholes call themselves experts? Yet they willfully ignore things from the very fucking episode they're going nuts over? Nevermind the mountain of evidence from other sources?

Jesus H. Christ...... this fandom needs an enema.
 
So I'm sitting here at work, looking for a podcast to listen to while I toil away. Unfortunately, most things I listen to still haven't come back from the holidays. One thing that I do see is the Inglorious Treksperts have a podcast about the best "war episodes of Star Trek." OK, what the hell, I'll give it a listen, nothing else to really listen to.

Right off the hop I find out that pompous asshole Robert Meyer Burnett is on. Ok, there's a notch against it. What proceeded was a solid 20 minutes of them gleefully declaring Discovery and SNW to be removed from the canon thanks to Lower Decks. It may have went on, I switched it off. The sound of machines blaring in my ears is a better alternative.

I mean, these assholes call themselves experts? Yet they willfully ignore things from the very fucking episode they're going nuts over? Nevermind the mountain of evidence from other sources?

Jesus H. Christ...... this fandom needs an enema.
For a podcast that proclaims to be “all about the love,” those bitter manchildren spend way too much goddamn time complaining about everything made between 2005 and spring of 2023. Each one of those “industry professionals” should be fucking embarrassed by their behavior.
 
It seems "Discovery" was erased from canon according to the internet which means the Section 31 movie is now in a alternate universe so they do have freedom to change the uniform if they wanted and it would not be a canon issue.
According to the Internet Alex Kurtzman has been fired 5 times to date, but somehow refuses to leave and hasn't been escorted off the lot or stopped working on new Star Trek productions. :shrug:
;)
 
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