You could be on to something.
It's when you explain your interpretation and get someone else telling you you're wrong. The only thing to do is not tell anyone.
Your opinion on SNWs Gorn
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Carl says a lot of things, don't be believing him just because he used his big boy voice.I think the Guardian of Forever lied in the first season when it said that "... all is as it was before..." and McCoy's jump to the past did more damage to the timeline than It led Kirk & Co. to believe at that point.
What It was actually saying is that as far as Kirk was concerned, things were back to 'nominal' and they wouldn't be aware of the changes anyway.
1. I don't agree. I prefer that those youngling as biology weapon created by the Gorn. so they are not supposed to live as a civilized and intelligent creature. They were created to bring chaos into the enemy. As a pure hunter to kill. Or maybe they just a different but has close relative to the Inteligent Gorn. Like Human, Monkey, Orang Utan, and Gorilla.
2. I don't know why, but the TOS version looks like a rip off of the Japanese Ultraman monster of the week. Or maybe it is the Japanese Tokusatsu who rip off the TOS Gorn? I don't know. It also remind me of Barney the Purple Dinosaur. The point is, the TOS Gorn looks weird ( or maybe more cringy? I don't know) to me.
3. I agree.
My question : Did Gorn appear more than 1 episode in TOS? If not, then they don't have to keep the canon so much. As maybe, even Gene Roddenberry didn't care too much about them. And also maybe, they borrowed / rent the suit from another movie / show just to fill the quota for TOS alien of the week. So unless the Gorn have the level of appearance as Vulcan, Klingon, and maybe Romulan from TOS, they can be change to fit with the 21st century audience taste.
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You keep saying this. And it's true. We don't know how they reproduce. We don't know that they all look like this Gorn. We don't know if there are factions, or an Empire, or if this is some kind of refugee ship.
But you know what we KNOW? We have never met them before.
So with one episode you really only have one "fact" to avoid. That's easy, right?
I'm sure it was easy.
They chose to ignore. I've made peace with this. That is the nature of history. What we think we know can change.
You have to make peace with the idea that the name means more than anything else. The details really don't matter, all that matters is rolling the name out for folks addicted to nostalgia. They wanted the name of Jim Kirk in their show, so the "I met him when I took command" meant far less than the potential for a name drop. T'Pring has been all over the show, yet the only picture Spock has of her is as a child, which I think showed how the writer of "Amok Time" thought of the relationship, that they hadn't seen each other since childhood.
The name drop will always be more important than the actual contents of TOS. But, it is all clearly the same timeline...
That was never said. Kirk met Pike "When he was promoted to Fleet Captain." And they stuck to that.
Of course we also learn in the same scene that Kirk and Pike are the same age!
This is true.
Half the objections I see to these things is fan interpretation of the material.
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They are fine.
I don’t think it’s so much ‘fan interpretation of the material’ as it is that the original writers felt that their audience was smart enough to understand basic concepts like first contact without them having to spoon-feed dialogue explaining such.
I think that, instead of using the label "Gorn", I would have used "Tzenkethi." That would not seem to contradict Arena. And would fit with conflict during the Border Wars.
Yes, I thought this. I hope they have some sort of cast system perhaps?
I'm struggling with the idea that these 'monsters' also work in labs and construct interstellar space craft haha.
I'm hoping they have perhaps a warrior class that and that's who we have met and maybe builder/healer/leader types we may also meet.
Who knows?!
Really enjoying the episodes though
I'm struggling with the idea that these 'monsters' also work in labs and construct interstellar space craft haha.
I'm hoping they have perhaps a warrior class that and that's who we have met and maybe builder/healer/leader types we may also meet.
Who knows?!
Really enjoying the episodes though
We see them in spacesuits in Hegemony. They also have long fingers, good for lab work and construction.
I supposed. I really enjoyed the scientist Klingons we met in Enterprise. Id like to see something like that I guess.
May be a limit of my imagination but the gorn we have met seems like Raptors from Jurassic park and I struggle to see them devising warp cores
The Gorn in the space suit did seem a little more reserved and intelligent than the hunter type ones we see in other scenes though.
The more I think about it the more interesting I find the development of a society like that. Id love to read a Gorn encyclopedia haha
Im definitely looking forward to them exploring them more.
honest question: wherever you are from you probably have a 'warrior class' - want them to be bloodthirsty maniacs or intelligent soldiers?
... yeah, thought so
A study of human societies will show that both of these things are capable of both.
Those are children.
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