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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

For all the talk of cults, the only one here seems to be dedicated to astroturfing opposition to continuing the NuTrek project that appealed to the broadest portion of the fanbase and even managed to break into mainstream attention. And of course last week that small-l legacy adjacent OTOY short dropped, which again received widespread acclaim.
 
For all the talk of cults, the only one here seems to be dedicated to astroturfing opposition to continuing the NuTrek project that appealed to the broadest portion of the fanbase and even managed to break into mainstream attention. And of course last week that small-l legacy adjacent OTOY short dropped, which again received widespread acclaim.
It is weird to me, but to each their own. I think this place needs a boogeyman to get by, that's my theory.;)

Down with Legacy!! :lol:
Strange New Worlds?
Definitely broader than it's parent show
 
For all the talk of cults, the only one here seems to be dedicated to astroturfing opposition to continuing the NuTrek project that appealed to the broadest portion of the fanbase and even managed to break into mainstream attention. And of course last week that small-l legacy adjacent OTOY short dropped, which again received widespread acclaim.
Should we only be positive about things?


Should we only want widespread aclaim?

All I said was I do not want Legacy, as in, not my first choice. I do however support the desire to make it and would hope that fans of it get what they want. It's not my first choice. But, that's my opinion. I don't believe in mainstream attention, or appealing to the fanbase; I want a good story.
 
Sorry I just can’t sift through so many posts and threads to find this…where can I find information on the state/status/what has happened of the galaxy prior to ST: Picard?
 
Sorry I just can’t sift through so many posts and threads to find this…where can I find information on the state/status/what has happened of the galaxy prior to ST: Picard?
Tricky. I'd try Memory Alpha and search individual years. Perhaps from 2385 onward

 
Sorry I just can’t sift through so many posts and threads to find this…where can I find information on the state/status/what has happened of the galaxy prior to ST: Picard?
Easiest way is the Short Trek "Children of Mars."

In summary, the Romulan supernova happened, resulting in the empire collapsing. Picard was going to mount an evacuation effort but an attack on Mars changed political opinions.
 
I'll also say that calling that short "Legacy adjacent" is certainly a stretch. It's got more connections to the Kelvin timeline, Discovery, and even Enterprise than it does with "Legacy."
The interesting thing about the reaction to the Unification short is that we once again get a full display of the double standards and hypocrisy That Segment of fandom engage in. Specifically, the people who want pre-2009 Trek to remain "pure and untainted" by the modern stuff. Hell, there are some who even enter threads for new TOS novels in the Lit forum wanting to know if there's any Disco or SNW references in them, as they "cannot in good conscience read them if there are." Yet, Unification seems to have universal support and praise, even from That Segment despite the presence of two characters from Disco, one in a very prominent role.

Between this, the adulation Picard S3 gets and even the fact that some vocal critics of Disco perked up and paid attention upon hearing the promotional material indicating the fifth season was a sequel to TNG episode, it's starting to make it look like all you need is copious fanwank and a vocal percentage of the fandom will declare it a Masterpiece and the Greatest Ever. Distressing fact for those of us who want Star Trek to expand and grow, to be a tree rather than an ouroboros.

Though writing this has made me wonder how That Segment would react if Legacy did become a thing, and Michael Burnham appeared in an episode...
 
Hell, there are some who even enter threads for new TOS novels in the Lit forum wanting to know if there's any Disco or SNW references in them, as they "cannot in good conscience read them if there are."
Tell me you're exaggerating! Please. Please?
it's starting to make it look like all you need is copious fanwank and a vocal percentage of the fandom will declare it a Masterpiece and the Greatest Ever.
Yep. Throw in a bunch of references to shit they remember from 30 years ago and they'll go gaga for it. Especially if it somehow overrides something from "nuTrek." Do that and you'll even get a 2 hour gush fest on Trekyards and a RMB Podcast.
Distressing fact for those of us who want Star Trek to expand and grow, to be a tree rather than an ouroboros.
Preach!
Though writing this has made me wonder how That Segment would react if Legacy did become a thing, and Michael Burnham appeared in an episode...
I'd love every single second of it.
 
The interesting thing about the reaction to the Unification short is that we once again get a full display of the double standards and hypocrisy That Segment of fandom engage in. Specifically, the people who want pre-2009 Trek to remain "pure and untainted" by the modern stuff. Hell, there are some who even enter threads for new TOS novels in the Lit forum wanting to know if there's any Disco or SNW references in them, as they "cannot in good conscience read them if there are." Yet, Unification seems to have universal support and praise, even from That Segment despite the presence of two characters from Disco, one in a very prominent role.

Between this, the adulation Picard S3 gets and even the fact that some vocal critics of Disco perked up and paid attention upon hearing the promotional material indicating the fifth season was a sequel to TNG episode, it's starting to make it look like all you need is copious fanwank and a vocal percentage of the fandom will declare it a Masterpiece and the Greatest Ever. Distressing fact for those of us who want Star Trek to expand and grow, to be a tree rather than an ouroboros.

Though writing this has made me wonder how That Segment would react if Legacy did become a thing, and Michael Burnham appeared in an episode...

I just thought it was an excellent tribute to seeing Kirk and Spock for the last time. Doesn't matter to me what was referenced.
 
What the fandom wants and what the fandom would possibly get, are two very different things. If you listen to what some fans say they expect from a possible "Legacy" series, it's laughable.

Kurtzman and Co. are not potted plants.

I fully anticipate they'll add their little wrinkle to Legacy (they did it with SNW).
 
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