Not even a little bit. It is clearly a rewritten timeline / rebooted narrative, and they only fit together with broad strokes. The second you start to analyze the nitty gritty it falls apart.
Been that way since TOS season one. The seams show up under the slightest scrutiny. Rose color glasses sold separately.Not even a little bit. It is clearly a rewritten timeline / rebooted narrative, and they only fit together with broad strokes. The second you start to analyze the nitty gritty it falls apart.
Indeed, yes.Been that way since TOS season one. The seams show up under the slightest scrutiny. Rose color glasses sold separately.![]()
I treat TOS as a dramatization of events, like Gene Roddenberry allegedly did. I don’t take the episodes as literal representation of what actually happened in-universe.
SNW I take more seriously than TOS.
TOS has done worse.and SNW is the shiny exaggerated version, with crazy musicals, super soldier serum, xeno-gorn, one liners and jokes, genetic morphing, and whatever other crazy things they end up doing
The same TOS that has Space Hippies, pills for telekinesis, super-speed water, giant amoebas and other crazy things?I'm the reverse. TOS is the real gritty thing that happened with serious officers, and SNW is the shiny exaggerated version, with crazy musicals, super soldier serum, xeno-gorn, one liners and jokes, genetic morphing, and whatever other crazy things they end up doing. To me its the dramatization, or rather, in universe entertainment, that the characters are playing. TOS is much more serious and features much more mature and professional people.
Assumption, not factual.It is clearly a rewritten timeline / rebooted narrative, and they only fit together with broad strokes.
Assumption, not factual.
The copyright holders and writers making the show say it's in the same timeline, ergo it is the same timeline.Nah. I have eyes, and a memory. You can interpret the facts differently then me, but they are still facts. lol. It is not "faithful" to the look nor narrative of the original, re: OP.
That's not how fictional timeline's work. The "facts" are mutable because this is fictionNah. I have eyes, and a memory. You can interpret the facts differently then me, but they are still facts. lol. It is not "faithful" to the look nor narrative of the original, re: OP.
The copyright holders and writers making the show say it's in the same timeline, ergo it is the same timeline.
You as a fan not liking that it's not a carbon copy of TOS does not make it non-canon or a different timeline. Visual continuity =/= story continuity.
All of this is missing my original point that fans don't dictate what is and isn't canon.The current copyright holders can say whatever they want, and the future copyright holders can come along and change that. TAS was once canon, then it wasn’t, then only parts of it were, then all of it was. The producers of VOY once considered Jeri Taylor’s novel “ Pathways” to be part of the canon; later producers ignored it. Paramount+ considers DSC and SNW part of the same continuity as TOS, then go out of their way to make an episode of SNW featuring Khan as a kid in the first quarter of the 2000’s when he was formerly an adult man in 1996.
So no. Nothing is set in stone in this fictional universe. The fact that shows like TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, PIC, PRO and all the films go under the assumption that TOS actually looked like it did visually and aesthetically, and not like how DSC/SNW looked, leads me to believe that it’s SNW, not TOS, that is the dramatization of events, not TOS.
"Fictional dramatization" is dumb for either show.The current copyright holders can say whatever they want, and the future copyright holders can come along and change that. TAS was once canon, then it wasn’t, then only parts of it were, then all of it was. The producers of VOY once considered Jeri Taylor’s novel “ Pathways” to be part of the canon; later producers ignored it. Paramount+ considers DSC and SNW part of the same continuity as TOS, then go out of their way to make an episode of SNW featuring Khan as a kid in the first quarter of the 2000’s when he was formerly an adult man in 1996.
So no. Nothing is set in stone in this fictional universe. The fact that shows like TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, PIC, PRO and all the films go under the assumption that TOS actually looked like it did visually and aesthetically, and not like how DSC/SNW looked, leads me to believe that it’s SNW, not TOS, that is the dramatization of events, not TOS.
All of this is missing my original point that fans don't dictate what is and isn't canon.
"Fictional dramatization" is dumb for either show.
Not something anyone making SNW has said.I agree 100%. If you’re going to make a show that purportedly takes place in the same time period and continuity as another show, then you should make it look like that other show. Not something that looks completely different and justify it by saying that it’s just a fictional dramatization of the former show.
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